i hope stern gets run over by a bus.
i dislike the lakers as much as the next guy, but stern is screwing up five teams with this trade veto (including the knicks)

they had a chance to work all this BS out in collective bargaining. it's obvious that fixing what's wrong with the L was not the priority. It was a cash grab- plain and simple.

danny granger is awesome: http://deadspin.com/5866628/after-last-nights-botched-trade-danny-granger-says-hes-changing-his-name-to-sterns-bi?tag=basketball-reasons

simmons sums it up nicely: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7334835/the-sixth-day-nba-christmas


and the warriors are hopeless. all talk and no action. new owners aren't getting anything done. They wont make the ballsy moves necessary to free up cap space (amnesty biedrins or lee), eat the cash (what owners do when they want to win and have a bad contract or two blocking them from doing so), and go after talent (trade one of your PG's, get a center like chandler or nene, etc).
the culture of the team has been toxic for so long that players openly say that they do not want to come to oakland. until that changes, i don't see how a team can do anything but squander drafted talent until they burn them out (monta) or until they get so frustrated that they beg their way out (curry in two years).

dorrell wright is cool though. glad to see him philanthropically active in oakland lately-- classy moves.

mark jackson will be terrible. great playing background, agreed, but that does not necessarily translate into good coaching. you can't coach with rhetoric, you need strategy. he's not an effective communicator-- if he was, he would have been a good commentator/analyst. he was all catch-phrases and bullshit.

that said, i got some tix to see the NYK stomp on the W's on the 28th. Chandler/Melo/Amare. maybe a moody billups coming off the bench hoisting up air ball threes like he gets points for trying (he'll probably whine his way to miami by that point). that will be a fun game.

Last I heard the Warriors have cooled on any deal to get Paul because he will not agree to an extension after his contract is over this year.

Other news, Greg Fucking Oden is the next Sam Bowie. He's probably out again this season.

JimBeam - 09 December 2011 06:30 PM

i hope stern gets run over by a bus.
i dislike the lakers as much as the next guy, but stern is screwing up five teams with this trade veto (including the knicks)

they had a chance to work all this BS out in collective bargaining. it's obvious that fixing what's wrong with the L was not the priority. It was a cash grab- plain and simple.

danny granger is awesome: http://deadspin.com/5866628/after-last-nights-botched-trade-danny-granger-says-hes-changing-his-name-to-sterns-bi?tag=basketball-reasons

simmons sums it up nicely: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7334835/the-sixth-day-nba-christmas


and the warriors are hopeless. all talk and no action. new owners aren't getting anything done. They wont make the ballsy moves necessary to free up cap space (amnesty biedrins or lee), eat the cash (what owners do when they want to win and have a bad contract or two blocking them from doing so), and go after talent (trade one of your PG's, get a center like chandler or nene, etc).
the culture of the team has been toxic for so long that players openly say that they do not want to come to oakland. until that changes, i don't see how a team can do anything but squander drafted talent until they burn them out (monta) or until they get so frustrated that they beg their way out (curry in two years).

dorrell wright is cool though. glad to see him philanthropically active in oakland lately-- classy moves.

mark jackson will be terrible. great playing background, agreed, but that does not necessarily translate into good coaching. you can't coach with rhetoric, you need strategy. he's not an effective communicator-- if he was, he would have been a good commentator/analyst. he was all catch-phrases and bullshit.

that said, i got some tix to see the NYK stomp on the W's on the 28th. Chandler/Melo/Amare. maybe a moody billups coming off the bench hoisting up air ball threes like he gets points for trying (he'll probably whine his way to miami by that point). that will be a fun game.

How does a PG for a Finals team not have good communication skills? Because u cant feel his tv commentator style doesnt mean he cant reach dudes in the locker room.
U dont get into the top 5 of all time assists not being able to read the court and your teammates.
You actually think he will talk the same way for as tv analysit as he would in the locker room?

I smell racism.

He got hired because he says "Mama there goes that maaan!"?

he got hired with absolutely no coaching experience.

i said: he was good on the court. Great career.
Doesn't mean he will be a good coach.

The dudes he will be coaching know him from the tail end of his career (2000 onward when his minutes started diminishing, if that) and his work as an analyst. I think he has a pretty big hill to climb before they even start to take him seriously as a coach-- all these young guys know are his catch phrases. plus he's already set the bar way too high by saying that the warriors will play a modicum of defense this year. like david lee isn't the starting PF or some shit.

I was really unhappy with this hire. And I think the guy's an annoying twat. So there's that, too.
i don't see how any of that is racist though.

JimBeam - 10 December 2011 02:54 PM

he got hired with absolutely no coaching experience.

I can think of some guys with coaching experience that I wouldn't hire to coach my kids Pee Wee team.

In 2011 an NBA coach has a lot more priorities than x's & o's.

Like being able to deal with mega-ego personalities and motivate petulant millionaires.

Jackson knows the game....can relate to todays players.....and played for one of the greatest coaches to ever live.

I'm not saying the dude is going to be a great, or even good coach....but to write him off for the reasons you have is foolish imo.

And I'll admit that since I'm writing this from NY I may be suffering from some old school St. Johns bias.

motown67 - 09 December 2011 09:57 PM

Other news, Greg Fucking Oden is the next Sam Bowie. He's probably out again this season.

Brandon Roy is retiring at age 27 b/c of his problematic knees.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Brandon-Roy-is-set-to-retire-way-earlier-than-h;_ylt=ApNvSvtkmdVGYaMiZiz1ZH28vLYF?urn=nba-wp11588

that's just tragic. when he was on, he was a great scorer.

aldridge is out for a bit after a heart procedure.

portland is screwed. they've got a lot of personnel decisions to make in a very short period of time. hopefully they get some positive progress-- their rabid fanbase deserves something to be excited about.

I was shocked and sad when I heard Brandon Roy was retiring. That boy was something special. Reminds me of how Penny Hardaway's career went.

Excited to see how the Lakers' D will look with Mike Brown at the helm.

If the Nets get Howard, they'd be one solid shooting guard away from being an Eastern Conference favorite. Kobe/Dwight would be nice as well...

JimBeam - 10 December 2011 02:54 PM

he got hired with absolutely no coaching experience.

i said: he was good on the court. Great career.
Doesn't mean he will be a good coach.

The dudes he will be coaching know him from the tail end of his career (2000 onward when his minutes started diminishing, if that) and his work as an analyst. I think he has a pretty big hill to climb before they even start to take him seriously as a coach-- all these young guys know are his catch phrases. plus he's already set the bar way too high by saying that the warriors will play a modicum of defense this year. like david lee isn't the starting PF or some shit.

I was really unhappy with this hire. And I think the guy's an annoying twat. So there's that, too.
i don't see how any of that is racist though.

In 1997, Bird accepted the position of coach of the Indiana Pacers and said he would be on the job for no more than three years. Despite having no previous coaching experience, Bird led the Pacers to a 58–24 record—the franchise's best as an NBA team at the time—in the 1997–98 season, and pushed the Bulls to seven games in the Eastern Conference finals. He was named the NBA Coach of the Year for his efforts, becoming the only person in NBA history to have won both the MVP and Coach of the Year awards. He then led the Pacers to two consecutive Central Division titles in 1999 and 2000, and a berth in the NBA finals in 2000.

This shit is getting depressing. The season hasn't even started and I'm already upset. It doesn't look like the Warriors will be able to do jack in terms of adding players before the season starts. The only thing they're going to do is make an offer to DeAndre Jordan of the Clippers, which will likely match the offer. They were reported palyers in a NY-Atlanta deal involving Jamal Crawford, but then there were reports that GS wasn't. I don't know what pieces the Warriors could hope to get from those two teams anyway that would be worthwhile. I actually think that the Warriors might play a little better this year, but you don't want to be in their position. They're a middling team that probably won't make the playoffs, but won't be bad enough to get a high draft pick. That's a formula for mediocrity.

How much money does GS have to dangle?

Im tellin ya.....Monta is the trade bait.

Lee needs help in the frontcourt.

I would look into Jamal Crawford next to Curry.

And maybe an aging vet like VC. Who is yall's vet?

The original report said that the Warriors would be a facilitator in moving Crawford from the Hawks to the Knicks. Crawford actually played here for half a season under Don Nelson. Had one or 2 good games, and then proved completley erratic. Had no consistency with his shot or scoring and the Warriors ended up letting him go.

As far as veterans it's not good for GS. Monta and Biedrins have been the longest with the team. In terms of years in the League Dorell Wright and Biedrins are at 7, and Monta and Lee are at 6.

I heard theyve been trying to upgrade Biendris who has lost his moxie.

Meanwhile my Pacers got David West which moves Handsbrough to the bench.

The West move came out of nowhere. All the stories said he was in talks with Boston.

motown67 - 11 December 2011 04:48 PM

The West move came out of nowhere. All the stories said he was in talks with Boston.

nah the pacers were targeting him for a minute. boston jumped in to see if he was interested. we had more money.

im not a big fan of west but ig hibbert plays well and west does his thing well be alright.

this pendergrass kid sounds interesting. Pacers loaded on big men from the d league. hmmmmm?

Warriors get DeAndre Gordon. Not bad at all. Great upside.

My Zards got Rony Turiaf from the Knicks. Great.

So nice I posted twice!

Jordan is a restricted free agent so the Clippers can match, and early reports say that they will. They have 3 days to match or let him walk.

Looks like Lakers are going all or nothing for Howard. They just traded Odom away for nothing, but a trade exemption.