Jonny_Paycheck
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So whilst lamping at a Tuscan resort last week I picked up Homicide, which I'm embarrassed to say I've not read. Made it about 100 pages in before having to return it to its rightful owner (and climb back in my Mercedes and drive back to Rome).
Should I be copping all seven seasons of the show along with the book?
Selfsame question applies to "The Corner".
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BATMON
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Homicide started it all.
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Gamble
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Strange. Im in rome at the moment, reading Homicide. Such a dope book.
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onetet
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Homicide and The Corner (the books) are both amazing.
Homicide and The Corner (the television shows) are good, but don't touch the Wire.
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mannybolone
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Quote:
So whilst lamping at a Tuscan resort last week I picked up Homicide, which I'm embarrassed to say I've not read. Made it about 100 pages in before having to return it to its rightful owner (and climb back in my Mercedes and drive back to Rome).
Should I be copping all seven seasons of the show along with the book?
Selfsame question applies to "The Corner".
I still need to read "Homicide" but I'll definitely ride for "The Corner." I thought it worked on several different levels: journalistically, sociologically, and just as an interweaving of different human portraits and narratives.
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onetet
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I posted this in the last Homicide-reated thread that came up, but in addition to reading the Simon books, I think Wire fans would enjoy some Baltimore crime/streets-related docs like Omar+Pete and Girlhood.
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Jonny_Paycheck
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Just to be clear, I'm certainly buying the books; I'm just not sure if I want to invest in the 7-season DVD package (with respect to Homicide) if it's not really necessary.
Full disclosure, I've watched every ep of The Wire 2-3 times and am not expecting much to live up to its standard... but I'm very excited to read Homicide and if the show is good I'd be game to invest the time to watch it.
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cove
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Mr. Paycheck, PLEASE do.
It's such an amazing show, one I've watched 3-4 times in completion.
Much better character development than on the Wire, the writing is better IMO and Andre Braugher is such a pleasure to watch act.
It might get a little soft in the final season, but other than that, it cannot be fusked with.
If you don't like it, I'll reimburse you.
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onetet
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I liked Homicide (tv) at the time, but my gf was rewatching Seasons 1+2 recently and stopped because it felt too formulaic and dated. based on the eps I saw, I'd have to agree.
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dollar_bin
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The Corner miniseries is worth at least a rental, although I didn't bother to purchase it. It's pretty trippy at the end of the series when they bring out the real people from the Corner and you realize that actors are just like prettier versions of real people. You can cake Khandi Alexander in junkie makeup, but she's still Khandi Alexander. It will make you appreciate the cameos the people from the Corner make on The Wire, for example DeAndre McCullough as Lamar ("Your homophobia is visceral")
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mannybolone
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I thought "Homicide" was good but at the end, as a police procedural, it wasn't as rich as "The Shield" nor as narratively self-contained as "Law and Order." I respect the show but never loved it and stopped watching after two seasons.
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Jonny_Paycheck
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so it sounds like maybe I should experiment with the first couple seasons and then take it from there. Works for me.
Thanks, soulstut!
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Brian
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homocide is worth netflixing, but i wouldn't buy it
i would buy the corner cos its probably a lot cheaper but i don't think i ever want to watch that shit again cos it's f*cking depressing
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Saracenus
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I ride for Homicide for seasons 1-3. Look at this cast.
* Daniel Baldwin as Det. Beau Felton (seasons 1–3)
* Ned Beatty as Det. Stanley Bolander (seasons 1–3)
* Richard Belzer as Det. John Munch
* Andre Braugher as Det. Frank Pembleton (seasons 1–6)
* Clark Johnson as Det. Meldrick Lewis
* Yaphet Kotto as Lt. Al Giardello
* Melissa Leo as Det. Kay Howard (seasons 1–5)
* Jon Polito as Det. Steve Crosetti (seasons 1–2)
* Kyle Secor as Det. Tim Bayliss
There was not a weak link in the bunch. The writing was awesome and the source material, David Simon's book was very present. The camera work was way different than I had seen. The sound track was damn good (this was a show that exposed me to some great music).
NBC didn't like the downer this series was so they made some changes...
When Ned Beatty and Daniel Baldwin didn't come back for season 4 the show lost a step. The writing was definitely weaker.
In season 5 Jon "Mumbles" Seda joined the cast and it was a death spiral from there. Jon Seda = Satan.
I have the first 4 seasons on DVD and I highly recommend them. The rest, if you have to watch them, netflix.
Post Script. Clark Johnson directed a great little HBO film, Boycott staring one of my favorite actors Jeffrey Wright. Clark was definitely influenced by the film style of Homicide.
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mannybolone
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homocide is worth netflixing, but i wouldn't buy it
i would buy the corner cos its probably a lot cheaper but i don't think i ever want to watch that shit again cos it's f*cking depressing
I tried to watch "The Corner" but having read the book, I preferred the book (the series mirrors much of the book).
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