Frank
Brian Peppers
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WTF!!!!!
I just ordered a plate of Spaghetti Bolognese from this Italian restaurant around the corner and what do I get?
Penne with a weird tasting tomato and cream sauce with sausage crumbs.
I call the place and they tell me: "yeah, we made it Penne because we were out of Spaghetti, it's both Pasta"
I'm almost speachless at this point and but mannage to ask what the damn that "sauce" was supposed to be and he says "that's the way we do it, that's our sauce bolognese".
I explain to him that that's an outrage but he wdoesn't seem to understand...
He even had an Italian accent.
What the hell is going on here? I mean NYC is famous for its good food but what went wrong with the Italian community here? Every Italian neighborhood restaurant I tried so far was average at best and on a sunny day and downright ridiculously poor on many and not all that rare occasions.
You try serving shit like this as Spaghetti Bolognese somewhere in the civilised world and you're most likely to end up with the damn plate in your face and rightfully so. Were the Italian immigrants who made it to NY expelled from their home country for the barbaric ways in which they treat their food?
Now I checked online and there are english language recipies that claim a Sauce Bolognese is prepared by crumbling sausage meat into a tomato sauce... goddamn!
Simple dishes like these are the backbone of every culture. Dishes that if prepared the right way take an enormous amount of work and time but use relatively cheap ingrediences. How can one allow to let people falsify such cornerstones of culinary culture as the Sauce Bolognese into some shit that's thrown together in 5 minutes?
Lord have mercy on our souls!
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PrimeCutsLtd
Why Must I Cry
Reged: Jun 30 2005
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Just because you're Italian doesn't make u a good cook.
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DJ_NevilleC
Why Must I Cry
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Mama mia!
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DJ_NevilleC
Why Must I Cry
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from wikipedia -
Spaghetti alla Bolognese, Spaghetti Bolognese, or Spaghetti Bolognaise in a form popular outside of Italy, consists of a meat sauce served on a bed of spaghetti with a good sprinkling of grated Parmigiano cheese. Although Spaghetti alla Bolognese are very popular outside of Italy, it never existed in Bologna, where ragù is served always with the local egg pastas tagliatelle or lasagne. Spaghetti is a durum wheat pasta from Naples, and the Naples Ragù of a meat flavoured thick tomato sauce clings much better to slippery spaghetti than Bologna's ground beef ragù.
In recent decades, the dish has become very popular in Sweden and Denmark as spagetti och köttfärssås, in Swedish, and spaghetti og kødsovs in Danish, especially among children. It is also popular in the United Kingdom (where it is colloquially abbreviated to spag bol or spag bog) and has become a staple of the British dinner table. In the United States as well, the term 'bolognese' is often applied to a tomato-and-ground-beef sauce that bears little resemblance to ragù served in Bologna.
Chinese people often use the term "Western zhajiang mian" to refer to spaghetti bolognese, alluding to its superficial similarities with the traditional Chinese noodle dish of zhajiang mian as both are dry noodles covered with a thick ragù mainly made of minced meat. This provides a symmetrical perspective to Westerners referring to zhajiang mian as "Chinese spaghetti".
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Frank
Brian Peppers
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Just because you're Italian doesn't make u a good cook.
That's true but if you'd told me before that I'd ever hear any Italian tell me "Penne, Spaghetti, doesn't matter, it's all pasta" I wouldn't have believed you. Not in a million years.
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unclesanchez
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I've been checking for good Italian since I got here, and everything has been mad overpriced and mediocre at best. Making up for blandness with salt. Anyone who knows the spots to check for, plaese to inform.
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SelinaKyle83
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Mmmmm, americano's are odd with their pasta- Spaghetti Marinara was served with no seafood!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa??
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Kinetic
Mike Henderson's Thong
Reged: Nov 01 2003
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Am I in trouble if I make lentil bolognaise and serve it with corn-based pasta?
That's what I'm making tonight!
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Lucious_Fox
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Reged: Jun 18 2006
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What the hell is going on here? I mean NYC is famous for its good food but what went wrong with the Italian community here? Every Italian neighborhood restaurant I tried so far was average at best and on a sunny day and downright ridiculously poor on many and not all that rare occasions.
Arthur Ave.
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Lucious_Fox
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Mmmmm, americano's are odd with their pasta- Spaghetti Marinara was served with no seafood!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa??
Spaghetti Marinara isnt required to come w/ seafood unless u specify.
Marinara is just a style of sauce. Spaghetti is Pasta. Simple.
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HarveyCanal
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Reged: Oct 18 2005
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He even had an Italian accent.
What the hell is going on here? I mean NYC is famous for its good food but what went wrong with the Italian community here? Every Italian neighborhood restaurant I tried so far was average at best and on a sunny day and downright ridiculously poor on many and not all that rare occasions.
You try serving shit like this as Spaghetti Bolognese somewhere in the civilised world and you're most likely to end up with the damn plate in your face and rightfully so. Were the Italian immigrants who made it to NY expelled from their home country for the barbaric ways in which they treat their food?
I get where you are coming from, really I do. But dude, must we remind you that planes leave from NYC back to the "civilised world" every 15 minutes?
*And yes, my Italian grandmother arrived at Ellis Island back in the 30's along with her brother, as basically orphans who were cast out from their home country because of the barbaric ways that Italians treat their own children once their mama dies sick and papa decides to remarry.*
Point being, watch your far-reaching words over your frickin spaghetti-o's not actually being o's.
But yeah, weak Italian food is mad weak.
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SelinaKyle83
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Reged: Mar 27 2008
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Mmmmm, americano's are odd with their pasta- Spaghetti Marinara was served with no seafood!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa??
Spaghetti Marinara isnt required to come w/ seafood unless u specify.
Marinara is just a style of sauce. Spaghetti is Pasta. Simple.
Here, marinara is seafood sauce. We call that basic sauce napolitana......well at least that's the case with most italian joints here.
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PrimeCutsLtd
Why Must I Cry
Reged: Jun 30 2005
Posts: 2565
Loc: lookin' at my gucci it's about that time
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I'm surprised how many crappy restaurants stay open year after year.
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Bambouche
Mike Henderson's Thong
Reged: Nov 01 2003
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/magazine/17food-t.html
My wife worked on this shoot for a NYTimes Bolognese recipe, and we tried it.... Oh my fück, it's like if the Greek Goddess Demeter were Italian and her breast milk contained wine and beef and she let every hungry soul suckle at her teat til their heart's content. So delicious.
I made it last week for a big birthday party we hosted, with a side of ricotta, mushroom, green onion crostini and a salad with pear and gorgonzola.
The sauce took 4 hours, and while I was cooking peolpe would venture into the kitchen, watch me dump an entire stick of butter into the pan, say, "Damn!" and leave. They'd wander back in and see 2 cups of wine go in, say, "Shit, dude!" and leave. After simmering for hours everyone was about to rush the kitchen, the whole house smelled like heaven. I'm pretty sure everyone wanted to fück my stirring spoon after they ate. Nobody even finished their sides, it was all seconds and thirds of that dish. So good.
Healthy? probably not so much...
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SelinaKyle83
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Reged: Mar 27 2008
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LOVE IT!!
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