Favorite Funk LP's
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Nah--if those records were not made by Black groups, I don't think anybody would think twice about calling them "rock".
I don't disagree. I listed that range of albums for Funkadelic because the band becomes distinctly funk after that.
Things can be "funky" and not funk. The JB shit referenced is distinctly funk. And I have a strong (tell me if it's incorrect) tendency to think of the big Ohio Players and post-76 Parliafunkadelic joints as posterboy for funk type albums. Two distinct sounds right there (JBs/OPsParliafunkadelics).
Is "the best funk of 45"?
I am supremely interested in rock albums made by Black artists. Hopefully ones that sound soaked in acid.
Nah--if those records were not made by Black groups, I don't think anybody would think twice about calling them "rock".
I agree. When I was first getting into funk, I picked up Cosmic Slop with high expectations and was very dissapointed. Funkadelic has some great funk songs, but I think they're primarily a rock group.
When you first heard "Cosmic Slop," were you expecting it to sound like "One Nation Under A Groove '73"?
I'm not trying to start any shit, honestly, but just wondering...there are a lot of people like that...the frame of reference is the later semi-disco stuff that everybody knows, but then they get a load of "Maggot Brain" or "Funky Dollar Bill" and they're like, damn, where'd all this guitar come from?. When I used to work in a record store, we got a lot of used or returned Funkadelic albums on Westbound that way.
As far as Westbound-era Funkadelic being either funk or rock...I think they could shoot either way, to be truthful.
Nah--if those records were not made by Black groups, I don't think anybody would think twice about calling them "rock".
About half the funk bands out there had distinct rock influences (hell, look at Sly & the Family Stone). The Bar-Kays titled an album Black Rock for a a damn good reason. Two of Jimmy Castor's RCA albums (Phase Two and It's Just Begun, had acid-rock fuzztone for days. At early '70s (white) rock festivals, or on FM rock stations, if there was ONE black band in the mix, it was usually a funk band, because aesthetically they had more in common with rock bands than some singing group in matching tuxedos. There's even an old ish of Hit Parader magazine from '71 which pinpointed "Black Rock" as the next big trend - and the article centered around Black Merda, the Bar-Kays and Funkadelic.
Yeah, I'm all for straight-up JB clones, and the jazz-fusion guys have their place, but the acid-rock influence on funk is usually swept under the rug by these trifling Roy Ayers fans - it's about time this was brought back into the light! Dig on that Chains & Black Exhaust compilation which focuses on this kind of sound.
Well, there's certainly funk with fuzzed-out or rock elements, but I don't think that describes Merda--what is it musically about Merda that would lead you to call it funk?
The fatback drums of Tyrone Hite (on the first album; he left when it came time for the second, and even then whoever replaced him knew how to lock in with the bassist for that extra touch of soul)!
But seriously, I never thought their status as a funk band would be questioned; as with Funkadelic, I think they could go both ways.
Now Hendrix's Band of Gypsys...or the Next Morning...those are black ROCK bands fo' sho'...although people like to say that the Band of Gypsys were Hendrix's funk experiment, it still comes out of the wash as straight-up rock to me. But Funkadelic and Merda had a bit more happening on the funkdafied tip, to me.
stop n go is better than that.dare I say
id have to ride with the superfly soundtrack
if that is not considered funk by you ghouls, i'll take first Meters LP
whoever mentioned rasputins stash in a best of anything thread (besides tepid turds) needs to get paddled by a midget
"cissy strut is an enigma"
gabe roth on the unison gtr/bass lines that are found in that classic jam.
big daddy #3 1999 shitty is sooooooo pretty article
truer words never spoken
as if to say the meters are one of the few to get away with "that sound" which of course they invented/own
real funk is found in the wide world 45s so get to work
you guys are nice you have spent this much time putting this kid up and on the right track for the gutbucket jams we all love and live for
gabe roth on the unison gtr/bass lines that are found in that classic jam.
big daddy #3 1999 shitty is sooooooo pretty article
truer words never spoken
as if to say the meters are one of the few to get away with "that sound" which of course they invented/own
real funk is found in the wide world 45s so get to work
you guys are nice you have spent this much time putting this kid up and on the right track for the gutbucket jams we all love and live for
There are so many...My favorite at the moment include:
Baby Huey
Ebony Rhythm Funk Capaign
"across 110 street" JJ Johnson & Boby Womack
Baby Huey
Ebony Rhythm Funk Capaign
"across 110 street" JJ Johnson & Boby Womack
kool & the gang - s/t
the meters - look ka pye pye
the nite liters - s/t
the j.b.'s - damn right i'm somebody
dennis coffy trio - hair and thangs
s.o.u.l. - what is it
the sylvers - II
bill mason - gettin' off
funk inc. - chicken licken'
the mohawks - the champ
not the most rare but the most funky i.m.h.o.
peace, stein. . .
the meters - look ka pye pye
the nite liters - s/t
the j.b.'s - damn right i'm somebody
dennis coffy trio - hair and thangs
s.o.u.l. - what is it
the sylvers - II
bill mason - gettin' off
funk inc. - chicken licken'
the mohawks - the champ
not the most rare but the most funky i.m.h.o.
peace, stein. . .
if you don't think the first handful of Funkadelic albums are "funk" music then you need to invest in a couple of these and then listen to them again.
Wow, amazingly nuanced argument.if you don't think the first handful of Funkadelic albums are "funk" music then you need to invest in a couple of these and then listen to them again.
And how would you define "funk," in musical terms?
i got a lot of friends that say's if it has wah or chucka chucka guitars it cant be classified as funk. but to me the "funk" it's just a vibe i get. there's a lot of blurry lines in funk. what about k.c. & the sunshine band? what about slave? what about chic? what about average white band? funkadelic & parliament? it's all funky to me. peace, stein. . .
Well ... I suppose the world is determined to define the word "funk" around the Funkadelic sound. Hence, all the damned bands like Deep Banana Blackout or whatever calling themselves "funk" bands.
If you're gonna say that stretched out, guitar solo laden "funky" blues rock is funk, then you're gonna have to come up with a new word to describe James Brown's music ... cause it ain't that.
Well ... I suppose the world is determined to define the word "funk" around the Funkadelic sound. Hence, all the damned bands like Deep Banana Blackout or whatever calling themselves "funk" bands.
If you're gonna say that stretched out, guitar solo laden "funky" blues rock is funk, then you're gonna have to come up with a new word to describe James Brown's music ... cause it ain't that.
To be a bit more specific (and less reactionary) I think Funkadelic removed a lot of the latin influence from JB style funk (the polyrhythmic quality that made it danceable) and replaced it with psychedelic bluesy guitar riffs and solos. Not bad music (and obviously important culturally) ... just significantly different from what was previously referred to as funk.
Nah--if those records were not made by Black groups, I don't think anybody would think twice about calling them "rock".
I agree. When I was first getting into funk, I picked up Cosmic Slop with high expectations and was very dissapointed. Funkadelic has some great funk songs, but I think they're primarily a rock group.
When you first heard "Cosmic Slop," were you expecting it to sound like "One Nation Under A Groove '73"?
Not at all. I had never heard any Funkadelic before, but based on their image and reputation I figured I should be able to pick up any one of their albums and get my funk fix, not a Hendrix clone. Nothing against Hendrix or Cosmic Slop, it just wasn't what I was looking for. At that time, I was looking for 70s Kool & The Gang type stuff.
I'm not into the whole "One Nation..." era. That four-on-the-floor beat sounds like disco to me. But the first couple albums definitely have some funk gems.
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