That's that shit I don' t like

[staxwax]

Ive pretty much been an avid rap/hip-hop fan all my life, beginning as a very casual listener in the very early 80s One of my first 45s was a Newcleus 'jam on it' - whistle 'just bugging', that kind of thing. There was a period from the mid 80s to the late 90s that I pretty much ate everything up that dropped. Still have a serious appetite for teh rapz, i think my posts in the rap youre liking thread are pretty obvious as far as revealing my taste in hiphop.

I was just having a conversation with some other older heads on wattsapp talmbout new stuff and some of them are into popular new joints like kendrick and made me realize although im a lifelong fan of the genre for the last 20 years my tastes have pretty consistently excluded everything on the mainstream and just under the mainstream radar. Pretty strange really and although i have a definite taste for boombappy eastcoasty stuff I can get down with pretty much everything and listen to a lot of new stuff (i fux with asap rocky clams casino, the union type shit for example)

So here is my list of shit i never really felt or severely disliked over the years (Ill be honest - I pretty much hated all of this with a passion)

Shit im not feeling but most rap listeners do in no particular order: the clipse, rick ross, lupe fiasco, jcole, kendrick lamarr, wale, eminem, d12, outkast (first album got burn, then their style changed for the worse), jay z, kanye west, 50 cent, all of g unit, mystikal, all of no limit, eightball & mjg, everything snoop dropped after doggystyle, dmx, ruff ryders etc., bone thugs n harmony, n.e.r.d. (hated it), most of pharrels output, tupac, puffy, mase and all of post biggie and craig mack first joints on bad boy, LONS and everything busta rhymes dropped, UGK, Mos def, talib kweli, common, Three6mafia, Beyonce.

Soooo... tell me strut... What seems to be the problem with my ears vis a vis the rest of the world? What kind of a listener do you think i am? What am i missing? What box would you put me in? Straight disconnected, old man rap head, or worse? Typecast me, do your worst...

 

[Duderonomy]

[strong]Everything[/strong] Busta has done?

 

[staxwax]

I really liked this busta freestyle from 95 on that doowop tape, other than that, cant really listen to him without wanting to break stuff

 

[Gary]

You are generous and emotional. You are quite popular in your social circles for being a genuine friend to everyone. You value human relations the most and put the people you love above everything else. However, you also possess some negative traits. For example, you have a tiny penis and your breath smells bad.

 

[RAJ]

 

[batmon]

staxwax said:I can get down with pretty much everything and listen to a lot of new stuff (i fux with asap rocky clams casino, the union type shit for example)...







There's nothing wrong w/ having a favorite era, preferred styles, or conservative taste, but dont front like "you can get down w/ pretty much anything".





b/w





Where did u party from the late 90's to now?

 

[HarveyCanal]

batmon said:





Where did u party from the late 90's to now?




Obviously, nowhere near Atlanta, Memphis, New Orleans, nor Houston.

 

[batmon]

HarveyCanal said:batmon said:





Where did u party from the late 90's to now?




Obviously, nowhere near Atlanta, Memphis, New Orleans, nor Houston.




Or Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City, Virginia Beach, Richmond, Miami, St. Louis, Toronto, The Bronx, Uptown & Downtown Manhattan.....

 

[jlee]

staxwax said:I can get down with pretty much everything and listen to a lot of new stuff (i fux with asap rocky clams casino, the union type shit for example)...

There's nothing wrong w/ having a favorite era, preferred styles, or conservative taste, [strong]but dont front like "you can get down w/ pretty much anything"[/strong].




^^^


This





No BS -- my first question is why the boiler plate dislike of so many (popular) artists? That type of attitude sounds like you are in your first year of college and really really want to impress someone.





I think you need to tell us your (not-so-hidden) agenda about what constitutes as "good, pleasing rap". Doesn't appear to be anything with actually rapping or lyrics.





If you are a member of Rock Steady Crew, (or perhaps European) I think I might understand.

 

[LaserWolf]

I was this way, with rock and pop, for most of my life.


If it's popular I don't like it.





It is not about the music it is about the image. The image of the music and my image of myself.





I have realized how stupid it is and am trying to get over it.


Unfortunately I am now old and hate almost everything because... Get Off My Lawn!

 

[batmon]

Self Declared Hatter since 2005.





"all this shit has been done before...."


"That aint nuthin new....."


"Im too old to listen to 19 year olds......"


"Shit sounds like chicken......"


"They'll disappear in 4 years......"


"His momma call him Cassius...imma call him Cassius....."

 

[Beatsoup]

staxwax said:


Soooo... tell me strut... What seems to be the problem with my ears vis a vis the rest of the world? What kind of a listener do you think i am? What am i missing? What box would you put me in? Straight disconnected, old man rap head, or worse? Typecast me, do your worst...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpacker_(US_slang)

 

[staxwax]

Gary said:You are generous and emotional. You are quite popular in your social circles for being a genuine friend to everyone. You value human relations the most and put the people you love above everything else. However, you also possess some negative traits. For example, you have a tiny penis and your breath smells bad.







haha :NO: b/w well played





RAJ said:




yes! fusking hate wayne. I remember smh at hot boyz ads in the source bitd thinking bottom of the barrel moronic acts just bought their way into the industry. Whoda thunk those exact pen and pixel acts would become some of the biggest in the industry? :shreddin_it:





batmon said:staxwax said:I can get down with pretty much everything and listen to a lot of new stuff (i fux with asap rocky clams casino, the union type shit for example)...







There's nothing wrong w/ having a favorite era, preferred styles, or conservative taste, but dont front like "you can get down w/ pretty much anything".





b/w





Where did u party from the late 90's to now?




partied grudgingly in many clubs where they play shit from my shit list above.


Talmbout 'But I thought you liked hip hop?' yes... but... nevermind.'





But eh - europe. Admittedly gigs is where i got my hip hop fix - Hands in the air party partying is more in the funk/disco/ and occasional techno happenstance vein.





HarveyCanal said:batmon said:





Where did u party from the late 90's to now?




Obviously, nowhere near Atlanta, Memphis, New Orleans, nor Houston.




nope. never been near any of those hotbeds of bad taste.

staxwax said:I can get down with pretty much everything and listen to a lot of new stuff (i fux with asap rocky clams casino, the union type shit for example)...

There's nothing wrong w/ having a favorite era, preferred styles, or conservative taste, [strong]but dont front like "you can get down w/ pretty much anything"[/strong].




^^^


This





No BS -- my first question is why the boiler plate dislike of so many (popular) artists? That type of attitude sounds like you are in your first year of college and really really want to impress someone.





I think you need to tell us your (not-so-hidden) agenda about what constitutes as "good, pleasing rap". Doesn't appear to be anything with actually rapping or lyrics.





If you are a member of Rock Steady Crew, (or perhaps European) I think I might understand.




haaa well you have your answer. Honestly im really not on some 'ITMUSTBEBOOMBAP' stance. All the stuff ive listed i really dont like musically instinctively - although ive picked up records from those artists if they dropped stuff I did like (jay z big pimping w ugk, ehhh i think i have a copy of the hey ya 12"). You riding for jayz or busta lyricism? I never bought in to the andre3000 is the best rapper alive schtick. as for the not liking actual rapping or lyrics jibe - miss me w da BS.





LaserWolf said:I was this way, with rock and pop, for most of my life.


If it's popular I don't like it.





It is not about the music it is about the image. The image of the music and my image of myself.





I have realized how stupid it is and am trying to get over it.


Unfortunately I am now old and hate almost everything because... Get Off My Lawn!




Hahaa well I never hatted on pop or popular per se i dig pop music. Popularity or image is not a grounds for dismissal to me - more of a case of being jaded i suppose. But get the fuck off my lawn nevertheless - kids these days. Some 25 yr old dude at work was trying to talk to me about dj'ing and liking afro-rock and rap and dj shadow and being up on his music shit blablabla - at some point ODB came up and he'd never heard of him. never. heard. of. ODB = off the lawn.





batmon said:Self Declared Hatter since 2005.





"all this shit has been done before...."


"That aint nuthin new....."


"Im too old to listen to 19 year olds......"


"Shit sounds like chicken......"


"They'll disappear in 4 years......"


"His momma call him Cassius...imma call him Cassius....."










well yeah. one thing I cant really get over is exact same flip of classic samples breaks with no extras, Jay Z is severely guilty of that. I mean the blue print sounded like some tired old shit to me when it dropped. I guess not so much for the kids to whose ears it was all new.


Made You Look is the way to reuse a worn out sample imo. Post 89 Straight up seven minutes of funk loops do not get a pass.

 

[batmon]

staxwax saidost 89 Straight up seven minutes of funk loops do not get a pass.




Tha Liks - Only When Im Drunk was a legit use of a Classic, and didnt take away from EpMD.


Purists might bitch ("be original fuck that") but that's an impossible stance in Hip Hop. Impossible.


The Jay-Z/Foxy Brown joint was considered a "throwback" by '96....when "Throwin' Back" was already an oiled trend by '96.





Yet Biggie gets a pass for Warning though, right?

 

[staxwax]

Yeah i thought warning was the shit. I dug only when im drunk too. First liks is a certified classic. New & improved flavours and stylings.

 

[Rishan]

Staxwax, no love for Resurrection? I can do without everything else Common ever did, but that LP is top ten list. No I.D's production is just impeccable.





b/w





Why is this surprising? Is there anyone here who likes (I mean REALLY likes) all of the artists listed? I have no time for anything that I don't REALLY like, therefore I love some hip hop and dislike a lot. Just like I love some jazz, dislike a lot. Making up ratios here, but I reckon the quantity of great music to average in any genre is less than 1%

 

[batmon]

staxwax said:Yeah i thought Warning was the shit




Compton's Most Wanted used Walk On By in '92.

 

[staxwax]

Rishan said:Staxwax, no love for Resurrection? I can do without everything else Common ever did, but that LP is top ten list. No I.D's production is just impeccable.





b/w





Why is this surprising? Is there anyone here who likes (I mean REALLY likes) all of the artists listed? I have no time for anything that I don't REALLY like, therefore I love some hip hop and dislike a lot. Just like I love some jazz, dislike a lot. Making up ratios here, but I reckon the quantity of great music to average in any genre is less than 1%




Yes. 1% indeed. Just amazes me how consistently i dislike the stuff thats is embraced across the board. That NO Id production is indeed amazing. I remember taping the used to love her video off yo mtv raps and really liking it. Never really went in for the rest of his stuff at the time - he just seemed a little too soft, into himself, and cute for my taste - i already had my native tongues ish in that general pocket and didnt really feel common sense was adding much to the vein. then his continued catalogue got progressively worse and worse imo. On some rap for the ladies or - if you dont really like rap, youll like this type flow. Arrested development, another group thats was way too soft poppy and eager to please for my taste around that time.

 

[HarveyCanal]

The American South brought us jazz, rock-n-roll, and funk, but yeah, somehow when it comes to rap, it's only about bad taste. How dare UGK loop up some Curtis Mayfield and the Isley Brothers and rap in their own accents?





Obviously, this is a post about you and not the actual music itself.

 

[batmon]

I remember taping the used to love her video off yo mtv raps and really liking it. Never really went in for the rest of his stuff at the time - he just seemed a [strong]little too soft, into himself, and cute for my taste[/strong] - i already had my native tongues ish in that general pocket and didnt really feel common sense was adding much to the vein. then his continued catalogue got progressively worse and worse imo. On some [strong]rap for the ladies or - if you dont really like rap, youll like this type flow[/strong].