The Next Generation of Grails.

Breez

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What are some records that you've noticed climbing in price and status lately. I know there was a thread a little while ago that was talking about this topic and the Minority Band record hitting $1500- $1800 lately, but I had no clue of the thread title so I didn't rack my brain doing a search.

Also, what records have kind of slowed down and hasn't been reaching the prices it has in the past.

Example: Stark Reality hasn't been any where near the prices it was getting 4-5 years ago.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-2-LP-Funk-original-EAST-UNDERGROUND-SOAP-1971-/330480820416?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4cf23120c0
 
Burns said:crabmongerfunk said:http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-2-LP-Funk-...0820416?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4cf23120c0


Well that paid for Rocks diggin vacation round' the southeast and then some.

I found two copies, handed one to my brother and told him that would cover gas money.

When the trip was all said and done....9 days....3,000 miles...gas money ....rental car.......airline ticket to ATL........meals.....hotels.....and the records I bought I spent about $3,400.....my brother probably spent around $2,500 simply because I bought a lot more vinyl than he did.

Granted, we don't stay at Motel 6 or eat at MickeyD's.

EOU probably paid all his expenses less the records he bought.
 
The 90's saw a lot of "limited edition" releases.

They will be the next generation of grails.
 
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Rockadelic said:The 90's saw a lot of "limited edition" releases.

They will be the next generation of grails.

Especially some of the larger rock bands. There was a period where bands that were selling out arenas only had their vinyl released in tiny numbers. Records by the bands that stand the test of time (not looking at you, Everclear) will soar, imo.
 
Rockadelic said:The 90's saw a lot of "limited edition" releases.





They will be the next generation of grails.

Does that kind of manufactured rarity--the "Limited Edition!" shit--ever result in any real, deep grails, though? It seems like the records (or any collectables, really) in heaviest demand are always precisely the ones that were not meant to last, that were not geared toward careful, savvy collectors who are gonna buy two and keep 'em in the plastic. It's always the most ephemeral, disposable shit--records given away to soldiers, acetates from no-names, baseball cards that came with fried chicken, whatever--that stokes the kind of frenzy that transcends fashion.

My feeling is that anyone who was still buying or manufacturing vinyl in the 90s kinda knew what they were doing. I doubt you're gonna hear about the organic freak shit that inspires real drive, like some Pearl Jam record that's one of ten because the rest of the run got destroyed or something. By the 90s, the folks that knew, knew, you know? There's of course the manufactured collectibilty and its attendant aura, but I think there's a ceiling/expiration date on that shit, and I can't see those records getting the kind of decades-long (that is to say multi-generational) burn that the heavy funk/punk/psyche/whatever jernts enjoy today.

Famous last words, though, right?
 
A lot of people think just cause the word "grail" is next to a title that the record is good. Just cause something is rare doesn't make it a good record, more of just a status piece.





I always like hearing about who first discovered these "grails" and the stories of finding these records for $1. Rockadelic has the best story I've heard in years (E.O.U.).





Also, when you find a "grail" for $1 and you're not aware of the it's worth and then find out what it is do you still look at that record as a $1 pull or do you hold in higher regard?
 
Some new rock records become instant grails...the 45 they gave away at gonerfest here in Memphis is already at the 75-100 mark...gonerfest was only 2 weeks ago...
 
james said:Rockadelic said:The 90's saw a lot of "limited edition" releases.





They will be the next generation of grails.




Does that kind of manufactured rarity--the "Limited Edition!" shit--ever result in any real, deep grails, though? It seems like the records (or any collectables, really) in heaviest demand are always precisely the ones that were not meant to last, that were not geared toward careful, savvy collectors who are gonna buy two and keep 'em in the plastic. It's always the most ephemeral, disposable shit--records given away to soldiers, acetates from no-names, baseball cards that came with fried chicken, whatever--that stokes the kind of frenzy that transcends fashion.





My feeling is that anyone who was still buying or manufacturing vinyl in the 90s kinda knew what they were doing. I doubt you're gonna hear about the organic freak shit that inspires real drive, like some Pearl Jam record that's one of ten because the rest of the run got destroyed or something. By the 90s, the folks that knew, knew, you know? There's of course the manufactured collectibilty and its attendant aura, but I think there's a ceiling/expiration date on that shit, and I can't see those records getting the kind of decades-long (that is to say multi-generational) burn that the heavy funk/punk/psyche/whatever jernts enjoy today.





Famous last words, though, right?

I'm one of those guys who was putting out limited edition stuff starting in '88, and no, I had no friggin clue about what I was doing. One early Rockadelic release, Cold Sun, has sold for close to 4 figures and if I knew what the hell I was doing I'd have a box of them stored away in a closet somewhere.