The Next Generation of Grails.
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The next generation of grails is musically pretty weak, IMO. As long as it's homemade-looking.
I do like the Donnie & Joe... but a lot of the newly minted "Hot Collectro Items" when compared to some of the stuff they're replacing... I don't know man. People just buying shit cause they don't have it.
I do like the Donnie & Joe... but a lot of the newly minted "Hot Collectro Items" when compared to some of the stuff they're replacing... I don't know man. People just buying shit cause they don't have it.
Wait, how is this really that different from previous eras?
I think if you're talking about grails WITHIN a given genre - soul, for example - it's going to be hard to "discover" new grails that are going to be better than what have already been known about, especially something that will compete on production.
But grails across genres? Wouldn't today's African grails be richer than the were, say, 10 years ago?
The same principle follows - people were looking for Frimpong 10 years ago for instance, but most of its peers in value and desirability don't match up.
It just annoys me that really good records don't catch the value of something that is rather tepid, just because it's new or different
I know, I sound old. Get off my lawn.
It just annoys me that really good records don't catch the value of something that is rather tepid, just because it's new or different
I know, I sound old. Get off my lawn.
In my experience there are 3-4 different levels of "grails" based on price ranges. There are only "X" amount of people willing to spend four figures on an LP. If something shows up in a small quantity it may be able to hold that value. If the same record shows up in massive quantities it will be knocked down a level or two on the supply and demand tip. This is why many dealers refuse to disclose how many copies of something they are sitting on. For instance I recently "discovered" a record that brought $300+ on ebay.
I felt I had more copies(50) than people who would pay that price so I blew them out at $50 on Waxidermy. At least one dealer told me that was foolish and that I should have sat on them and extracted every last penny I could. It's a good record...it will hold a $100 value....so (almost) everyone wins.
When a dealer is sitting on all the copies they can pretty much dictate the price....and it is true that some collectors are at a level where the unknown, newly discovered record is more desirable than the classic long-term "grail" ......although I think this is more true in the rock/folk genres than soul/funk for reasons ODub mentioned above.
The grail of the future hasn't been discovered yet.
I felt I had more copies(50) than people who would pay that price so I blew them out at $50 on Waxidermy. At least one dealer told me that was foolish and that I should have sat on them and extracted every last penny I could. It's a good record...it will hold a $100 value....so (almost) everyone wins.
When a dealer is sitting on all the copies they can pretty much dictate the price....and it is true that some collectors are at a level where the unknown, newly discovered record is more desirable than the classic long-term "grail" ......although I think this is more true in the rock/folk genres than soul/funk for reasons ODub mentioned above.
The grail of the future hasn't been discovered yet.
I'm curious, from the vets of the old Roosevelt shows or the like: what were considered grails in, say, the mid-1990s?
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