Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

[JectWon]

Duderonomy said:


Of course the problem is there are very, very few creditable scientists that would debate that Climate Change is happening, or is primarily influenced by human activities (pollution).





So the news programs have a habit of getting economists and politicians in to argue about something they have no understanding of.










Yep. Btw, if anyone can find acticles/essays from legitimate scientists and researchers that call 'bullshit' on climate change please please please share them. I'm sure there are a few and I'd really like to read them.

 

[LaserWolf]

George Taylor used to call himself Oregon State Climatologist.


http://www.appliedclimate.net/georgetaylor.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Taylor





http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/environment-jan-june07-northwest_06-21/





I don't know how to find his published scientific papers.





Science does not advance without skeptics.


I am reading about the cosmological constant.


Something Einstein made up so his calculations would work. 15 years later he abandoned the idea. It has recently been revived and the latest evidence for an expanding universe seems to prove there is a cosmological constant. It used to be called anti-gravity, now it is called dark energy. Dark meaning we don't know what it is.

 

[LazarusOblong]

LaserWolf said:George Taylor used to call himself Oregon State Climatologist.


http://www.appliedclimate.net/georgetaylor.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Taylor





http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/environment-jan-june07-northwest_06-21/





I don't know how to find his published scientific papers.




He wasn't a PhD and he wasn't a climatologist.





He had a Masters in meteorology. He had as much business calling himself a climatologist as a fire hydrant would.





Stop bringing water pistols to a gunfight.

 

[Duderonomy]

LaserWolf said:


Science does not advance without skeptics.







Nobody said it's been totally worked-out. It's being fine-tuned every year, every month, every day. That's what science does.

 

[LaserWolf]

JectWon saiduderonomy said:


Of course the problem is there are very, very few creditable scientists that would debate that Climate Change is happening, or is primarily influenced by human activities (pollution).





So the news programs have a habit of getting economists and politicians in to argue about something they have no understanding of.










Yep. Btw, if anyone can find acticles/essays from legitimate scientists and researchers that call 'bullshit' on climate change please please please share them. I'm sure there are a few and I'd really like to read them.




I found this one for you:


http://www.jamespowell.org/Avakyan/Avakyan.html





Only contrary article in recent years.





And this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

 

[JectWon]

LaserWolf said:


Science does not advance without skeptics.







I know and scientists embrace that...via peer review. I am IT support for a bunch of researchers at a medical university and you should see how these people shit on each others work...with logic and science. They embrace that...they want that...they use that type of logical criticism to ultimately come to valid conclusions.





Btw...thanks for the links to papers. I'll check them out tonight.

 

[LazarusOblong]

JectWon said:LaserWolf said:


Science does not advance without skeptics.







I know and scientists embrace that...via peer review. I am IT support for a bunch of researchers at a medical university and you should see how these people shit on each others work...with logic and science. They embrace that...they want that...they use that type of logical criticism to ultimately come to valid conclusions.





Btw...thanks for the links to papers. I'll check them out tonight.




Take the Avakyan with a million grains of salt:

A clue to the author's motivation comes on the first page of the article, where he writes,"The switch of world powers first to decreasing the use of fossil fuel and then to carbon-free energy within the framework of the Kyoto Protocol may lead to economic collapse for Russia as a consequence of the reduction and, probably, even loss of the possibility to sell oil and natural gas on the world market."

Ha ha. Some scientist.





http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/9135_out_of_9136_scientists_believe_climate_change_is_happening/

Contrary to what conservatives might suggest, there really isnÔÇÖt a debate in the scientific community over whether climate change is real. The commonly cited statistic is that 97 percent of scientists agree that global warming is happening, and that itÔÇÖs caused by human activity. Another way of looking at that consensus comes courtesy of James Lawrence Powell, who examined a yearÔÇÖs worth of climate-related scientific studies and found that virtually all accept man-made global warming.





PowellÔÇÖs analysis covers 2,258 articles published in peer-reviewed journals between November 2012 and December 2013, written by a total of 9,136 authors. He found but one holdout: S. V. Avakyan who, writing for the Herald of the Russian Academy of Sciences, concluded that ÔÇ£contribution of the greenhouse effect of carbon-containing gases to global warming turns out to be insignificant.ÔÇØ

 

[JectWon]

So, this guy apparently really dug Teh Cosmos:





[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/yoNN5tlDb9I[/media]





Btw, this dude is awesome:





[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/GU6rHi6Qzcs[/media]





[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/wuZY6yrF4Ts[/media]

 

[LaserWolf]

Is Cosmos over?


Did people like it?





I watched first episode, but too many commercials to sit through another.





Worth renting?

 

[Saracenus]

LaserWolf said:Is Cosmos over?


Did people like it?





I watched first episode, but too many commercials to sit through another.





Worth renting?




Yep it's over. Was well worth it. DVRed that shite and FF through the commercials.





I will say I got out the after each ep to see what the creationists were going to bitch about next...





And now a drunk version of NDT:





[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/4FP6QcaAgSc[/media]

 

[JectWon]

LaserWolf said:Is Cosmos over?


Did people like it?







Yes and yes.....but, I dunno if it accomplished what it set out to do.

 

[hogginthefogg]

Saracenus said:LaserWolf said:Is Cosmos over?


Did people like it?





I watched first episode, but too many commercials to sit through another.





Worth renting?




Yep it's over. Was well worth it. DVRed that shite and FF through the commercials.





I will say I got out the after each ep to see what the creationists were going to bitch about next...





And now a drunk version of NDT:





[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/4FP6QcaAgSc[/media]




It took me a while to realize that this is just a clip of him slowed down (that is, screwed), but I still watched it three times. Thank you.