Dolemite



klezmer electro-thug beats said:

To me it's more about the era - the movement to make Black movies for Black audiences, the personalities etc. You wouldn't need to dwell on the same button-pushing that Rudy went for back then to get the taste of what his movies were about. Hell, Shaft has scenes where like, he greets a girl and then it smash cuts to him fully nude on the couch getting up off her, or whatever, and Shaft is getting remakes/sequels to this day.



I agree - there's a very interesting story behind the material, I'm sure. b/wThat first Sam Jackson Shaft sequel was kinda *yawn*. Haven't watched any of the others.
 
Yeah I was so hyped for Sam Jackson as Shaft and was pretty disappointed. I guess the one from this year has Jackson, Roundtree and the "new" Shaft as a nephew or whatever. I mean, a "black private dick who's a sex machine with all the chicks" is always gonna be a recipe for a pretty good pulpy movie concept, but they seem to do as little as possible with it.

I agree, though, that "grindhouse" as a genre can't be dragged into this century in any recognizable state. There are definitely grindhouse films getting made now, but for streaming platforms and mid-grade TV channels, or independently, and not along the same lines.

For example, I know a guy who has carved out a niche in NZ making very low budget Samoa/NZ-set Samoan-centered movies aimed at Samoan audiences, in the country itself but also in the US/Aus/NZ diaspora, and seems to be making really good returns on being the only person doing that. Indeed the only person doing any kind of regular Polynesian-oriented stories. But the movies aren't 70s-style gritty line-stepping, they're light-hearted, warm and generally pretty family friendly. I'd argue that's occupying a similar market segment to what Blaxploitation used to, but in different historical conditions with a different type of content as a result.
 
Gary Davis (The Professor) is still making bananas films, but he's the exception to every rule.
 
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^^ To prove the point, was just cleaning up and found this poster of a recent/current(?) project of Gary's:


b/w A friend of mine recently made a film about Gary: https://vimeo.com/user954548
 


klezmer electro-thug beats said:

I agree, though, that "grindhouse" as a genre can't be dragged into this century in any recognizable state. There are definitely grindhouse films getting made now, but for streaming platforms and mid-grade TV channels, or independently, and not along the same lines.




Have you seen the work of Anna Biller?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no1ja_T19kc



or Dario Russo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z09bNgSeMI



If any film maker could bring back Grindhouse my money would be one of these 2.



- spidey
 
Good shout, I loved Danger 5! I only wish the Dinosaur guys were more productive. I hadn't seen the Love Witch but I'd heard of it, the trailer makes it look even harder-core authentic than I thought.
 
Got my tickets for the now sold out New Beverly screening next Tuesday featuring an appearance by the writing duo of Larry Karaszewski and Scott Alexander. Looking forward to it.

 
Won't be long before it drops on nefflix but pls do report back. My cousin caught it at TIFF last month and he seemed to really like it.
 
I motherfucking enjoyed it! Everything works so well: the soundtrack which weaves in and out of every scene effectively (original music by Scott Bomar of the Bo-Keys too), the costumes (Ruth Carter returns to her seemingly favorite decade once again!), the use of Los Angeles landmarks (the Dunbar and Orpheum but no Total Experience?) and, of course, Eddie Murphy who did this with obvious enthusiasm and as a loving tribute. I don't think it could have been played by, or green lighted involving, any another actor.

The aforementioned writing duo who appeared post screening; veterans of the outsider-legend biopic (Ed Wood, Larry Flynt, Andy Kaufman, the Keanes and, soon, John McAfee), had this one in the making for 16 years before enough interest was generated and Netflix jumped on board. They've come a long way from "Problem Child", that's for sure.

Observations, some of which can be spoilers...














Mike Epps is great as Jimmy Lynch and Wesley Snipes is real fun as a name-dropping, somewhat haughty D'urville Martin who is occasionally and humorously taken down a notch ("I worked with Roman Polanski!", "that's right, you were in 'Rosemary's Baby'!", "yeah, as the elevator guy!"). Da'Vine Joy Randolph as Lady Reed / Queen Bee was one of the best. I've never seen her in anything listed on IMDB as I am out of the loop with what's on TV these days. Hope she goes far. Snoop and Chris Rock play DJs. Ron Cephas Jones and Bob Odenkirk have uncredited appearances as the rhyming, story-telling drunk who inspires Moore's Dolemite persona and a shady record exec, respectively.

So yeah, this is recommended. I thought this is more entertaining than, say, the equally detailed, nostalgic, similarly themed but ultimately purposeless "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood", despite Tarantino's film having more hype and star power behind it. This one made better use of film footage, posters, reenactments and other visual cues.It's worth mentioning this doesn't cover an entire lifetime as, for example, the James Brown or Ray Charles ones do. It opens with his day job working at Dolphins Of Hollywood (represented by the interior of Pasadena record shop Poo-Bah. I knew it looked familiar!), after he's had a few 45s and LPs under his belt but before he hit the big time with his raunchy material. In real life, this was 1970 (making the vinyl porny intro scene slightly anachronistic. You'll see.). It goes no further than the premier of the first Dolemite film. To answer Spidey, the film does not mention his supposed homosexuality (if the claims from his manager several years back are to be believed), although his reluctance to talk about his personal life is touched on. Putting his poor, abusive rural upbringing behind him plays a significant part in the character development, though.
 
Glorifying murder, rape, poison pushing, bad diet, lies, and materialism is an abomination to all Black people and a curse on our race.

SHAME ON YOUR ENTERTAINMENT
 


Reynaldo82 said:

Glorifying murder, rape, poison pushing, bad diet, lies, and materialism is an abomination to all Black people and a curse on our race.

SHAME ON YOUR ENTERTAINMENT



LOL- spidey
 


Reynaldo82 said:

Glorifying murder, rape, poison pushing, bad diet, lies, and materialism is an abomination to all Black people and a curse on our race.

SHAME ON YOUR ENTERTAINMENT



I was reflecting on this poast and thought of this one. found this cookin vid
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/opinion/dolemite-is-my-name.html

"With some distance, with a more nuanced appreciation of “bad” films, and with far more black-created film and TV today than there was in the 1970s, there’s a bit more freedom to celebrate a more complicated piece of black cinematic history — and even enjoy it."
 
I just watched it today. First of all Eddie Murphy kills it in this , and it's easily his best work in years. Good to see that even though he has grown and changed his sense of humor is still alive and in tact. The movie itself was a quick paced homage of that era with very little dull moments, and lots of loving little tributes and references. Now I am actually excited to see what these guys could with the sequel to Coming to America.

Even one of my favorite reviewers gave it high praise:
http://outlawvern.com/2019/10/23/dolemite-is-my-name/

"This is pretty much a perfect movie – funny, warm, inspirational, a celebration of not only Rudy Ray Moore, but of black culture in general, and the DIY spirit, and succeeding without selling out, and people who never give up on creativity, even when the world tells them they’re old, or washed up, or a failure. And since much of the soundtrack is based around the original DOLEMITE theme song, it’s a celebration of the funk."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PvnNmr7ylc

- spidey
 
My wife and I loved it. A blaxpo Ed Wood (which I also loved). I was really excited to see it which is a perfect recipe to be let down but it was even better than I thought it was going to be. Five out of Five Rat-Soups.
 
Yeah, I finally saw it the other day and it was wholly satisfying. Well, the soundtrack coulda been edgier in parts, but it's a pretty amazing tracklist all the same.

  • Let’s Get It On – Marvin Gaye
  • Ring a Ling Dong – Rudy Ray Moore (Rudolph Moore and Billy Nightengale)
  • Like I Should – Craig Robinson
  • Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) – Sly and The Family Stone
  • One The Loose – Red Foxx
  • The Morning After (From The Poseidon Adventure)
  • Pete’s Blues – Benny Reid
  • Signifying Monkey – Rudy Ray Moore (Performed by Eddie Murphy)
  • Combo D – Eddie Murphy
  • I Ain’t Studdin’ You – Bobby Rush
  • Rocky Bottom – Jason Freeman
  • Ballad of a Boy and Girl – Rudy Ray Moore
  • Ring A Ling Dong – Rudy Ray Moore
  • Hip Hug-Her – Booker T. & The MG’s
  • Alvin’s Boo Ga Loo – Alvin Cash & The Registers
  • Button Up Your Overcoat – Susan Sarandon
  • Funky Stuff – Kool & The Gang
  • It’s Not How You Make Love – The Diplomats
  • Slippery When Wet – Commodores
  • La Vie En Rose – Louis Armstrong and his Orchestra
  • Dolemite – Craig Robinson
  • Nobody Knows When You’re Down and Out – Bessie Smith
  • I Got That Will – King Hannibal
  • Hi Roller – The Bo-Keys