Donovan or Dylan?

in this book, the author said that dylan (with lou reed) took advantage of young girls by providing them methamphetamine for days on end, and sexually corrupetd them. that's why i don't like him. shallow/petty, whatever. doug yule was there.
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Donovan. The thread pretty much sums it up -- Dylan is "great" but Donovan is actually more fun to listen to. And that breakdown of "Don't Look Now" is spot on.

Dylan has pulled so much crass shit in his career I'm amazed people still think he's some sort of God. I saw him in concert a couple of years ago -- free ticket -- it was the most phoned in, halfassed bullshit I've ever heard. Yes he was great once upon a time but that was long ago.

Energy flows WEST, motherfuckers!
 
Donovan. The thread pretty much sums it up -- Dylan is "great" but Donovan is actually more fun to listen to. And that breakdown of "Don't Look Now" is spot on.

Dylan has pulled so much crass shit in his career I'm amazed people still think he's some sort of God. I saw him in concert a couple of years ago -- free ticket -- it was the most phoned in, halfassed bullshit I've ever heard. Yes he was great once upon a time but that was long ago.

Energy flows WEST, motherfuckers!
Yeah but at least Dylan has had a career that actually managed to maintain some kind of relevance, even if today he phones in 90% of his shit. What has Donovan cultivated that even approaches to Dylan's career from 1972-82(some of Dylan's lamest moments, but still more memorable than what Donovan was doing at the same time).
 
Maybe Donovan started out as a sort of Dylan biter? On the Pennebaker movie (circa 1966) Dylan is dissing Donovan for his Hickory era records. He had not heard what would end up Donovan's most important records: Sunshine Superman through Barabajabal. Plus Dylan just liked to talk shit (see outtakes, esp. him tripping in the back of the cab with Lennon). And it was the UK press that had been pushing Donovan as "Britain's answer to Bob Dylan." Not Donovan. Of course, after this film was made, Dylan would record a string of LPs that would not only put Donovan's (future) output to shame, but also anyone elses's, for that matter.





The comparison is stupid.





I don't know shit about music.





Ain't it just like the night to play tricks when you're tryin' to be so quiet?


We sit here stranded, though we're all doin' our best to deny it


And Louise holds a handful of rain, temptin' you to defy it


Lights flicker from the opposite loft


In this room the heat pipes just cough


The country music station plays soft


But there's nothing, really nothing to turn off


Just Louise and her lover so entwined


And these visions of Johanna that conquer my mind





In the empty lot where the ladies play blindman's bluff with the key chain


And the all-night girls they whisper of escapades out on the "D" train


We can hear the night watchman click his flashlight


Ask himself if it's him or them that's really insane


Louise, she's all right, she's just near


She's delicate and seems like the mirror


But she just makes it all too concise and too clear


That Johanna's not here


The ghost of 'lectricity howls in the bones of her face


Where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place





Now, little boy lost, he takes himself so seriously


He brags of his misery, he likes to live dangerously


And when bringing her name up


He speaks of a farewell kiss to me


He's sure got a lotta gall to be so useless and all


Muttering small talk at the wall while I'm in the hall


How can I explain?


Oh, it's so hard to get on


And these visions of Johanna, they kept me up past the dawn





Inside the museums, Infinity goes up on trial


Voices echo this is what salvation must be like after a while


But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues


You can tell by the way she smiles


See the primitive wallflower freeze


When the jelly-faced women all sneeze


Hear the one with the mustache say, "Jeeze


I can't find my knees"


Oh, jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule


But these visions of Johanna, they make it all seem so cruel





The peddler now speaks to the countess who's pretending to care for him


Sayin', "Name me someone that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him"


But like Louise always says


"Ya can't look at much, can ya man?"


As she, herself, prepares for him


And Madonna, she still has not showed


We see this empty cage now corrode


Where her cape of the stage once had flowed


The fiddler, he now steps to the road


He writes ev'rything's been returned which was owed


On the back of the fish truck that loads


While my conscience explodes


The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain


And these visions of Johanna are now all that remain.
 
wow just fucking wow

go watch 'don't look back'

then look back at this thread

and tell me you don't feel like a complete fucking loser
I remember when I watched Don't Look Back that Dylan was a total asshole, I'm starting to think thats why you and Jawny Paychump like Dylan, cuz you can relate?
 
just to be objective, anyone seen donovan's teeth?
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...at least he has a pretty voice.
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Whoa! At least he doesn't look like Vincent Price in those Victoria's Secrets commercials. Yikes.
 
wow just fucking wow

go watch 'don't look back'

then look back at this thread

and tell me you don't feel like a complete fucking loser
I remember when I watched Don't Look Back that Dylan was a total asshole, I'm starting to think thats why you and Jawny Paychump like Dylan, cuz you can relate?
Damn, you still talking about me? I can send you a glossy if it would help your fantasies.
 
in my neighborhood, they have these vietnamese sandwiches that look just like those... for $1.75. makes me all nostalgic and shit.
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wow just fucking wow

go watch 'don't look back'

then look back at this thread

and tell me you don't feel like a complete fucking loser
I remember when I watched Don't Look Back that Dylan was a total asshole, I'm starting to think thats why you and Jawny Paychump like Dylan, cuz you can relate?
Damn, you still talking about me? I can send you a glossy if it would help your fantasies.
yes please...you know the address.













































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