Gay Marriage (NRR)

[Grafwritah]

I think an adopted child is lucky to get a couple of caring parents regardless of their sexual orientation.

Sayin'. I haven't seen any statistics???or anecdotal evidence for that matter???that show that homosexual parents have a higher instance of bad parenting than heterosexual parents. Hell, considering how long they've fought for the right to marry, I bet the divorce rate would be lower too.
If I recall correctly I don't think he said anything about them being bad parents.

I know gay couples who have kids and I think it will probably be a little more difficult for them than people who don't, just because it's not as socially acceptable (to the general populace) as having, say, divorced parents. So the reason I think it would be more difficult ... probably from about jr. high on ... is this:

"Billy's parents are FAGS!"

Teenagers. Yes. They are dicks.

 

[Rockadelic]

There are more bad parents in the U.S. than gay men.

Good people make good parents regardless of race, religion, sexual preference, etc., etc.

 

[Gary]

THis is probably a bad time to raise the breast feeding issue.


Or my theories about male lactation, or as I like to call it, "Mactation".

 

[Lefty]

I am not a bigot,
I have no Problem with gay people, I think eveybody should live how they want.
I myself was adopted, i know every Problem that comes with it to the fullest.
I can only imgine these Problems being much greater if you get adopted by gay parents,
especially Not Belonging / Abandonment / Feeling Alienated
also peer pressure mobbing etc.
I am sure there would be terrific gay parents,
just like there will be bad straight parents.
But all in all I am perfectly sure that it would be a lot easier for a child
to feel at home with a mom and dad compared to a gay couple.

 

[BigSpliff]

THis is probably a bad time to raise the breast feeding issue.


Or my theories about male lactation, or as I like to call it, "Mactation".

You probably want to get that checked out.

 

[Brian]

I am not a bigot,
I have no Problem with gay people, I think eveybody should live how they want.
I myself was adopted, i know every Problem that comes with it to the fullest.
I can only imgine these Problems being much greater if you get adopted by gay parents,
especially Not Belonging / Abandonment / Feeling Alienated
also peer pressure mobbing etc.
I am sure there would be terrific gay parents,
just like there will be bad straight parents.
But all in all I am perfectly sure that it would be a lot easier for a child
to feel at home with a mom and dad compared to a gay couple.

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against? A good set of parents will be able to raise their children to deal with problems they encounter in life and the way the world is going, the least of which will be "LOL UR DADZ/MOMZ R HOMOZ." You do realize that the "problems" you describe are only perpetuated by attitudes such as your own, right?

 

[BigSpliff]

I am not a bigot,
I have no Problem with gay people, I think eveybody should live how they want.
I myself was adopted, i know every Problem that comes with it to the fullest.
I can only imgine these Problems being much greater if you get adopted by gay parents,
especially Not Belonging / Abandonment / Feeling Alienated
also peer pressure mobbing etc.
I am sure there would be terrific gay parents,
just like there will be bad straight parents.
But all in all I am perfectly sure that it would be a lot easier for a child
to feel at home with a mom and dad compared to a gay couple.

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against? A good set of parents will be able to raise their children to deal with problems they encounter in life and the way the world is going, the least of which will be "LOL UR DADZ/MOMZ R HOMOZ." You do realize that the "problems" you describe are only perpetuated by attitudes such as your own, right?
Brian please SFTU. Or post a find.

 

[faux_rillz]

I am not a bigot,
I have no Problem with gay people, I think eveybody should live how they want.
I myself was adopted, i know every Problem that comes with it to the fullest.
I can only imgine these Problems being much greater if you get adopted by gay parents,
especially Not Belonging / Abandonment / Feeling Alienated
also peer pressure mobbing etc.
I am sure there would be terrific gay parents,
just like there will be bad straight parents.
But all in all I am perfectly sure that it would be a lot easier for a child
to feel at home with a mom and dad compared to a gay couple.

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against?
Yes. Also poor people.

 

[Lefty]

Whatever I m done with this thread.
The level of ignorance is nagl

 

[Grafwritah]

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against?

Yes. Also poor people.
How about gay poor people.

Dude is most likely right, though - you know that.

The kids will probably get ten tons of shit about it in school.

Does that outweigh having loving parents? Probably not.

But it's an added difficulty that adopted kids of straight parents won't have.

Does that mean gay people shouldn't be able to adopt? No.

 

[BigSpliff]

Dude is most likely right, though - you know that.



Does that mean gay people shouldn't be able to adopt? No.

Grafwritah for mod.

 

[faux_rillz]

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against?

Yes. Also poor people.
How about gay poor people.

Dude is most likely right, though - you know that.

It's irrelevant.

A point not worth making.

He exposed himself as a bigot with his first poast and is now grasping at straws - you know that.

 

[Grafwritah]

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against?

Yes. Also poor people.
How about gay poor people.

Dude is most likely right, though - you know that.

It's irrelevant.

A point not worth making.

He exposed himself as a bigot with his first poast and is now grasping at straws - you know that.
I wouldn't say its irrelevant. Skewering the guy for being against gay adoptions for a marginally thought out rationale (as opposed to BECAUSE GOD SAID SO) seems kind of silly. You don't have to support it or agree with it but I don't see the sense in ripping him apart for it. All that does is enforce an only-those-in-agreement poasting populace.

That would be dull.

 

[kitchenknight]

Whatever I m done with this thread.
The level of ignorance is nagl

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

Kids of all stripes - even perfectly straight kids of perfectly straight parents - get ridiculed, bullied, made fun of, and isolated in their childhood and teenage years. That is what kids DO. It's as old as f*cking time. Kids are mean as shit to each other for no reason.

I ask Grafwritah, Lefty, Salvia... do any of you have gay parents? Even know anyone with gay parents? Or are you just speculating what it *might* be like to have gay parents?

 

[Lucious_Fox]

Who is "better" equipped to raise a GAY child?

 

[shawnald_reagan]

Who is "better" equipped to raise a GAY child?

The Village People?

 

[faux_rillz]

Should a minority couple not have children because they might be a discriminated against?

Yes. Also poor people.
How about gay poor people.

Dude is most likely right, though - you know that.

It's irrelevant.

A point not worth making.

He exposed himself as a bigot with his first poast and is now grasping at straws - you know that.
I wouldn't say its irrelevant. Skewering the guy for being against gay adoptions for a marginally thought out rationale (as opposed to BECAUSE GOD SAID SO) seems kind of silly. You don't have to support it or agree with it but I don't see the sense in ripping him apart for it. All that does is enforce an only-those-in-agreement poasting populace.

That would be dull.
No, reread his initial poast.

It is not merely that he is being dumb (which, when you are advocating denying human rights, actually does merit skewering).

It is that he is a bigot who is grasping for reasons to justify his prejudices.

I am all for discussion, but going back and forth with a guy like him does not constitute discussion. His remarks have no place in a conversation amongst adults and he really should be BAN.

 

[DOR]

Who is "better" equipped to raise a GAY child?

D'uh,

Kids won't be gay if they have straight parents...

 

[LaserWolf]

Does an Adoption Agency really take into account the birth mother's request?

Why would she have any influence on the process?

Can I donate sperm and ask that it only goes to a midget?

The Birth Mother has rights?

Yes.
Because she is the producer of the commodity that the agency sells.
I know nothing about sperm donation.
Yes.

In the foster care system things work the way you are thinking.
The child is snatched from the parent(s) and given to anyone who will take the child.

For adoption agencies infants, healthy infants and Caucasian infants are a hot commodity worth lots of $$$.
Birth mothers have lots of say about who adopts them.

As I said before, it is complicated and it is screwed up.