If you're gonna discuss conspiracy theories......

[Snapping]

Why not keep it record related?

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/classic_rock_conspiracy_theory_weird_scenes_inside_the_canyon

This guy starts with the interesting military connections (mostly family) of most of the leading players in the Laurel Canyon folk rock scene and goes crazy places with it. Ties in MK-Ultra, Charles Manson, Satanism, etc. I find it really entertaining, and most of the book is compiled from articles that were previously available online:

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/

I kind of fell into a conspiracy theory spiderhole reading this stuff. Somehow there's always enough weird truth mixed in with the BS to keep me hooked.....

 

[volumen]

Better yet, why not post it in the thread that's already going.

 

[volumen]

B/W a guy with a leg full of shrapnel puts his sun glasses on and wait for help. Must be involved!

 

[Snapping]

volumen said:Better yet, why not post it in the thread that's already going.




Because that thread had already degenerated into the usual Soulstrut blowhards bickering.....

 

[Rockadelic]

Snapping said:volumen said:Better yet, why not post it in the thread that's already going.




Because that thread had already degenerated into the usual Soulstrut blowhards bickering.....




And this one won't?

 

[Snapping]

It might.


Let's let it breathe

 

[Da Vinylmentalist]

The writer of that book calls Jim Morrison vastly overrated? I don't agree with that statement.





Speaking of conspiracies though, Jim Morrison's father was the commander of the US forces involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident. This incident became the main justification for America to enter the Vietnam war and many conspiracy theorists believe it was a false-flag attack. From the perspective of conspiracy theorists, the Gulf of Tonkin 'false flag' was like the 9-11 of the sixties and Jim Morrison's father was the one who 'supervised' it.





Oh and the guy who produced the Doors albums was a Rothschild (one of the most wealthy and influential families in the world and allegedly one of the leading illuminati dynasties).





Another Rothschild music producer is Kate Rothschild, who is now dating rapper Jay Electronica after ditching her billionaire husband.

 

[volumen]

I'm clicking through because I'm bored at work and this is some total garbage.





Lincoln assassination conspiracy. As if anything could be examined properly 150 year after the fact. This is the bread and butter of conspiracy people. Here is a bunch of incomplete info from 150 years ago and we are going to see what we want to see in it.





We didn't land on the moon. Really? We just secretly dropped some equipment and lazer reflecting mirrors up there so we could pretend we landed there?





Boston bombing was a hoax. Because the blood doesn't look the right color in the pictures, people weren't maimed in an even manner and some guy was waiting for help a little to patiently? That site should be ashamed for posting pictures of people in agony with missing limbs so the site can make a bunch of BS claims to sell there book.








This is the problem with extreme conspiracies. They draw away attention and energy from the real things that are going on. The government really is spying on everybody but is semi-incompetent when it comes to protecting us even though they claim that's what the spying is for. Most of the world is run as an oligarchy with the super rich controlling everything. Tax dollars are wasted to the tune of billions all to line the pockets of weapons manufactures from falsely started wars and the completely failed war on drugs that got police thinking they need tanks. These are the real issues in plain sight that people should be putting energy into understanding and fighting.





The site you posted is just exploitative garbage to sell books and the author is acting just like the capitals pigs he claims to despise.

 

[Snapping]

But where do you stand on Jim Morrison?

 

[LaserWolf]

Da Vinylmentalist said:The writer of that book calls Jim Morrison vastly overrated? I don't agree with that statement.





Speaking of conspiracies though, Jim Morrison's father was the commander of the US forces involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident. This incident became the main justification for America to enter the Vietnam war and many conspiracy theorists believe it was a false-flag attack. From the perspective of conspiracy theorists, the Gulf of Tonkin 'false flag' was like the 9-11 of the sixties and Jim Morrison's father was the one who 'supervised' it.





Oh and the guy who produced the Doors albums was a Rothschild (one of the most wealthy and influential families in the world and allegedly one of the leading illuminati dynasties).





Another Rothschild music producer is Kate Rothschild, who is now dating rapper Jay Electronica after ditching her billionaire husband.




STFU

 

[volumen]

Snapping said:But where do you stand on Jim Morrison?




Died in a bathtub from drug overdose, but I'm sure this site has a grainy long distance photo of a 15 year old Jeb Bush holding Morrision's head under the water.

 

[Snapping]

volumen said:Snapping said:But where do you stand on Jim Morrison?




Died in a bathtub from drug overdose, but I'm sure this site has a grainy long distance photo of a 15 year old Jeb Bush holding Morrision's head under the water.




That's the spirit!





But actually this is what they say about Morrison's death:





"Jim Morrison, who for a time lived in a home on Rothdell Trail, behind the Laurel Canyon Country Store, may or may not have died in Paris on July 3, 1971. The events of that day remain shrouded in mystery and rumor, and the details of the story, such as they are, have changed over the years. What is known is that, on that very same day, Admiral George Stephen Morrison delivered the keynote speech at a decommissioning ceremony for the aircraft carrier USS Bon Homme Richard, from where, seven years earlier, he had helped choreograph the Tonkin Gulf Incident. A few years after JimÔÇÖs death, his common-law wife, Pamela Courson, dropped dead as well, officially of a heroin overdose. Like Hendrix, Morrison had been an avid student of the occult, with a particular fondness for the work of Aleister Crowley. According to super-groupie Pamela DesBarres, he had also ÔÇ£read all he could about incest and sadism.ÔÇØ Also like Hendrix, Morrison was just twenty-seven at the time of his (possible) death."

 

[Snapping]

It looks like the author took most of the Laurel Canyon stuff down from his site to avoid competing with his book. But it was all preserved at this site if anyone is interested:





http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Inside-The-LC-The-Strange-but-Mostly-True-Story-of-Laurel-Canyon-and-the-Birth-of-the-Hippie-Generation-Part-1_printer.shtml

 

[Da Vinylmentalist]

LaserWolf saida Vinylmentalist said:The writer of that book calls Jim Morrison vastly overrated? I don't agree with that statement.





Speaking of conspiracies though, Jim Morrison's father was the commander of the US forces involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident. This incident became the main justification for America to enter the Vietnam war and many conspiracy theorists believe it was a false-flag attack. From the perspective of conspiracy theorists, the Gulf of Tonkin 'false flag' was like the 9-11 of the sixties and Jim Morrison's father was the one who 'supervised' it.





Oh and the guy who produced the Doors albums was a Rothschild (one of the most wealthy and influential families in the world and allegedly one of the leading illuminati dynasties).





Another Rothschild music producer is Kate Rothschild, who is now dating rapper Jay Electronica after ditching her billionaire husband.




STFU




And your point is?

 

[volumen]

Snapping said:It looks like the author took most of the Laurel Canyon stuff down from his site to avoid competing with his book. But it was all preserved at this site if anyone is interested:





http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Inside-The-LC-The-Strange-but-Mostly-True-Story-of-Laurel-Canyon-and-the-Birth-of-the-Hippie-Generation-Part-1_printer.shtml




Wow. Everyone who lived in the 60's had a relative who was in the military. They must all be MK-ULTRA operatives! Or maybe it was that little thing called WWII.





A bunch of rich artists living in the hills outside LA. Say it ain't so!





The writing is awful. "since were on the subject" (the subject you started?), "curiously enough" (you have no proof, do you?) , " oh wait a minute, we can't move on yet" (what, your writing this free hand on a typewriter and can't edit things into an appropriate order?).





I love it how halfway through he refuses to make some leap citing what a reputable journalist he is after already claiming all these artists were in cahoots with their parents who must have been programming the entire 60's through MK-ULTRA.





I will say this is entertaining when your bored but don't put any valuable time into it.

 

[Da Vinylmentalist]

volumen said:Snapping said:It looks like the author took most of the Laurel Canyon stuff down from his site to avoid competing with his book. But it was all preserved at this site if anyone is interested:





http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Inside-The-LC-The-Strange-but-Mostly-True-Story-of-Laurel-Canyon-and-the-Birth-of-the-Hippie-Generation-Part-1_printer.shtml




Wow. Everyone who lived in the 60's had a relative who was in the military. They must all be MK-ULTRA operatives! Or maybe it was that little thing called WWII.




Yes it's a lame argument.





Conspiracy theorists also pointed to the fact that many passengers on the 9-11 flights worked or had once worked in the military sector.





The truth however is that many Americans have jobs that are directly or indirectly linked to the military industry, after all it's one of the biggest industries in the country.

 

[Saracenus]

Oh come on, we know the ultimate music related conspiracy theory was Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads... because how can you explain how good he was...

 

[LaserWolf]

Saracenus said:Oh come on, we know the ultimate music related conspiracy theory was Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads... because how can you explain how good he was...




I love how Northern, white, sophisticated blues fans, who don't believe in god or religion, still believe that Johnson sold his soul to the devil. There is an underlining racist narrative to that belief; no uneducated, rural, Southern, Black person could make music that complex and meaningful.





Not unlike people who think Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.

 

[LaserWolf]

What we need though are conspiracy theory records.


I am having a hard time thinking of any.


This comes to mind

But really more a meta-physical mysteries record.





As for music CT, Paul Is Dead.

 

[volumen]

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