Life Of Pablo thread
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There's a live rip doing the rounds elsewhere, but I'll sit tight for the mastered version.
The MSG show was amazing in a rap-meets-Zoolander kind of way. Judging from some of the video clips people were posting, if you were streaming it, you got the better end of the deal once they sorted the buffering issues out - the audio in particular was crisp.
Kanye is still the most polarising artist in modern music.
The MSG show was amazing in a rap-meets-Zoolander kind of way. Judging from some of the video clips people were posting, if you were streaming it, you got the better end of the deal once they sorted the buffering issues out - the audio in particular was crisp.
Kanye is still the most polarising artist in modern music.
white_tea said:
Impatiently waiting for the mastered version but this making me kinda whet https://soundcloud.com/kanyewest/30-hours
Love the beat, not really interested in what Joel Campbell has to say. Does he ever release instrumentals?
DocMcCoy said:
There's a live rip doing the rounds elsewhere, but I'll sit tight for the mastered version.
The MSG show was amazing in a rap-meets-Zoolander kind of way. Judging from some of the video clips people were posting, if you were streaming it, you got the better end of the deal once they sorted the buffering issues out - the audio in particular was crisp.
Kanye is still the most polarising artist in modern music.
This photo caption alone from the NYT contains an unprecedented amount of celebrity trolling:
"Kris Jenner, center, sat with, counterclockwise from lower left, 50 Cent, Karlie Kloss, the Balmain designer Olivier Rousteing, Melanie Griffith, Lil’ Kim, her granddaughter North West, Khloe Kardashian, Lamar Odom, Kendall Jenner, Kourtney Kardashian, a guest and Carine Roitfeld."
Like how in the world is Melanie Griffin sitting next to Lil' Kim? Kanye saying to everyone, Yes we're plastic. So?
That said, listening to some rips and the livestream last night, some of the name-dropping in the lyrics was getting to be a bit much, even from a tireless Kanye defender like myself.
I hear you. The references to Blac Chyna and Rob Kardashian would seem to suggest that the tracklisting wasn't the only thing finalised at the 11th hour.
The Guardian went to town with their review. Alexis Petridis did about 3000 words on it, but I took one look at the pull quote and thought, you can miss me with that, mate; "You can see why his immodesty rubs people up the wrong way". Righto. All it serves to do is to remind me what a load of pointless shite this hot-take culture is. So much of the media is in thrall to this idea that being first is more important than having something worthwhile or considered to say about whatever's under discussion. I'm sure if you went to Alexis Petridis for his thoughts in even a week's time, you'd get a different response, even if not substantially so.
There's a tedious predictability to the commentary that accompanies each new Kanye album, in particular the stuff that comes from people who appear to take little more than a passing interest in rap, yet who somehow still feel entitled to arrogate to themselves the role of deciding what's wrong with the music and what it needs to do in order to pass muster with decent-minded small-l liberals. It's hilarious how people like to act that self-aggrandisement, performative displays of excess and a tendency towards heightened reality didn't exist in rap before Kanye. I must have somehow missed that period when it was the preserve of humble, self-effacing dudes making low-budget rap songs about driving for UPS, working as a substitute teacher or throwing a party for their daughter when she had her braces removed.
I've only had time to listen to it once so far, not including hearing it on the MSG stream. On first impression I like it, although it's not as instant as Yeezus, which I thought was fantastic pretty much immediately. The second half is really strong, despite it being the half with the more familiar material (or perhaps because of that, come to think of it). At times it feels as if 'Ye himself is simply one of the bigger names amongst a cast of thousands rather than the Star of the Show. Certainly it seems he's moving more towards the more traditional producer role, a la Dre or even Quincy Jones, roping in whoever he thinks is most capable of Actualizing His Vision. It's making for some pretty extraordinary records, I know that much.
The Guardian went to town with their review. Alexis Petridis did about 3000 words on it, but I took one look at the pull quote and thought, you can miss me with that, mate; "You can see why his immodesty rubs people up the wrong way". Righto. All it serves to do is to remind me what a load of pointless shite this hot-take culture is. So much of the media is in thrall to this idea that being first is more important than having something worthwhile or considered to say about whatever's under discussion. I'm sure if you went to Alexis Petridis for his thoughts in even a week's time, you'd get a different response, even if not substantially so.
There's a tedious predictability to the commentary that accompanies each new Kanye album, in particular the stuff that comes from people who appear to take little more than a passing interest in rap, yet who somehow still feel entitled to arrogate to themselves the role of deciding what's wrong with the music and what it needs to do in order to pass muster with decent-minded small-l liberals. It's hilarious how people like to act that self-aggrandisement, performative displays of excess and a tendency towards heightened reality didn't exist in rap before Kanye. I must have somehow missed that period when it was the preserve of humble, self-effacing dudes making low-budget rap songs about driving for UPS, working as a substitute teacher or throwing a party for their daughter when she had her braces removed.
I've only had time to listen to it once so far, not including hearing it on the MSG stream. On first impression I like it, although it's not as instant as Yeezus, which I thought was fantastic pretty much immediately. The second half is really strong, despite it being the half with the more familiar material (or perhaps because of that, come to think of it). At times it feels as if 'Ye himself is simply one of the bigger names amongst a cast of thousands rather than the Star of the Show. Certainly it seems he's moving more towards the more traditional producer role, a la Dre or even Quincy Jones, roping in whoever he thinks is most capable of Actualizing His Vision. It's making for some pretty extraordinary records, I know that much.
I don't know, it really saddens me to say this but I'm struggling to make myself listen to this. I don't think he's ever made an actual bad album yet but I'm just so tired of hearing about fucking Kanye that I may actually be at the point where I can't be arsed to listen to the album itself.
It's not even hatred of the Kanye persona, his bravado and bullshit has never bothered me, it's just actual media induced fatigue.
Edit: Ok, quiet Monday morning at work so I broke and decided to give it a listen but Youtube are too fast at their game these days....Managed to catch about four songs though and I must admit I like what I hear. It's not incredible but it's not too shabby.
It's not even hatred of the Kanye persona, his bravado and bullshit has never bothered me, it's just actual media induced fatigue.
Edit: Ok, quiet Monday morning at work so I broke and decided to give it a listen but Youtube are too fast at their game these days....Managed to catch about four songs though and I must admit I like what I hear. It's not incredible but it's not too shabby.
Junior said:
I don't know, it really saddens me to say this but I'm struggling to make myself listen to this. I don't think he's ever made an actual bad album yet but I'm just so tired of hearing about fucking Kanye that I may actually be at the point where I can't be arsed to listen to the album itself.
It's not even hatred of the Kanye persona, his bravado and bullshit has never bothered me, it's just actual media induced fatigue.
I know exactly what you mean. I felt the same way when yeezus was released. I'm half way through my first listen of Pablo and it's a much better listen than yeezus. Maybe I've managed to avoid Kanye-in-my-psyche enough in the last few months to be able to enjoy it or maybe it's cause the music is better.. Not sure yet.
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