Life Of Pablo thread
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cai said:
Junior said:
I don't know, it really saddens me to say this but I'm struggling to make myself listen to this. I don't think he's ever made an actual bad album yet but I'm just so tired of hearing about fucking Kanye that I may actually be at the point where I can't be arsed to listen to the album itself.
It's not even hatred of the Kanye persona, his bravado and bullshit has never bothered me, it's just actual media induced fatigue.
I know exactly what you mean. I felt the same way when yeezus was released. I'm half way through my first listen of Pablo and it's a much better listen than yeezus. Maybe I've managed to avoid Kanye-in-my-psyche enough in the last few months to be able to enjoy it or maybe it's cause the music is better.. Not sure yet.
Yeah fair enough. The irony is I don't even follow or read any of these pieces but still feel like I've been swamped by it - not quite sure how that happened.
Finally got to listen through to the full thing on Bandcamp of all places (shhhh) and it's not bad but not for me. I think MBDTF was the singular point where my current tastes and Kanye's music crossed and I haven't really felt the same level of appreciation for any albums before or after (even his revered early output was always very hit and miss for me). There's a lot of the more RnB stuff on here, particularly in the first half which leaves me pretty cold and I was waiting for something to hit me but it all sort of just drifted by leaving little impression.
There's some decent production on there (30 hours is lovely) but I just don't think I want to hear him rap anymore - Yeezus really killed that for me and now, even when it's not bad, his delivery still makes me feel like he's delivering horrible clunkers and shit like the model/asshole lines just leaps out. Plus, pretty much every song follows the same formula of repeated chorus by guest star, some irrelevant verses from Kanye and then pitter out to end.
I may find more to enjoy through repeat plays but, the whole album feels so throwaway it's not calling me to spend more time with it. I really don't think it's bad as such but I just don't find anything particularly exciting or new in here so why spend more time with it?
It's a clusterfuck no doubt, in a gospel vein, which is pretty much Ye's lane. He's competing strongly against the Republican primaries for mind share. There are about 12 songs that I'll keep in rotation for a couple months.
(Reflexive hate is a bad look, btw.)
(Reflexive hate is a bad look, btw.)
Still marinating on it, but overall getting the sense that Kanye himself doesn't even know whether he's joking or not anymore - that he's entering a Tron-style world of his own creation, and there's like another Flynn, an evil one, running the show. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt on his outsized boasts, and this latest record seems at once very vapid and yet with moments that are transcendent. He's really pushing the envelope with how much anal bleaching we really want to hear about, and not sure how much longer I'm gonna ride with him on that journey. Also, Chance maybe a little too earnest and agree with a few people that he was the weakest element on "Ultralight Beam." Also also, maybe I'm tripping or it's my torrent but not hearing much of either Young Thug or Andre 3000 on their respective guest spots.
I've been thinking on the whole this is not a bad album. I'm digging some of the tracks. I asked how people felt about it at my poker game a couple days ago. Out of 9 people, 9 people said they hated him so much that they would never listen to his music no matter what.
Can you get past hate of a man and be able to listen to his music without letting that hate affect your opinion of the music? There's a ton of bastard people who's music I enjoy.
I think he's really crazy. I'm not riding for the dude, just trying to take the album as an album regardless of who made it.
Can you get past hate of a man and be able to listen to his music without letting that hate affect your opinion of the music? There's a ton of bastard people who's music I enjoy.
I think he's really crazy. I'm not riding for the dude, just trying to take the album as an album regardless of who made it.
why the hell did pitchfork give this a 9? fucking ridiculous by any measure - somehow these guys are intimidated by this asshats 'innernet relevance'
this seems overly forgiving but still fair:
https://youtu.be/hm7jy9HNl3w
personally i could never listen to this mega douches output - Id just as soon listen to a donald trump country album. i will examine the reception to gauge the state of popular culture.
https://youtu.be/SHSgB6QO1Yo
'visionary toddler'
this seems overly forgiving but still fair:
https://youtu.be/hm7jy9HNl3w
personally i could never listen to this mega douches output - Id just as soon listen to a donald trump country album. i will examine the reception to gauge the state of popular culture.
https://youtu.be/SHSgB6QO1Yo
'visionary toddler'
staxwax said:
personally i could never listen to this mega douches output - Id just as soon listen to a donald trump country album. i will examine the reception to gauge the state of popular culture.
This is pretty much every Kanye thread on the internet.
"This music is soooooo bad.... I'm guessing..... I mean, I'm sure that's how I'd feel.... if I listened to it......Anyway, I don't like him."
It didn't have the immediacy of some of his other ones, but it's definitely growing on me and I find myself coming back to a few of them -- 30 Hours, No More Parties, Real Friends, and a few more. I like how they flipped that Bam Bam sample too -- it really almost works!
As a borderline Kanye STAN, the marketing actually was icky, its slapdash nature only mirroring some of the weaknesses of the album. IMO, Kanye would have been better served keeping the tweet storms to a minimum, keeping the MSG listening party - which was amazing!, sound quality be damned - relatively mysterious, letting the SNL appearance speak for itself, and really just ride the strength of the actual music. His whole PR has not endeared himself to new fans, I don't think, and if anything muddied the way his actual fans think of him. Bill Cosby in innocent? Really? Then again, opinions are like assholes and I don't want to get any bleach on my shirt.
i've been listening to
this album a bit. there's some great playing and samples. i think I like
most of the songs on this tbh.
a lot of good collabos. i wouldn’t have expected havoc to be on
this. kareem riggins on 30 hours. ty dolla $ign tracks. andre on 30 hours.
lots of nice moments.
stuff like when the beat drops on freestyle 4. or when frank ocean comes in at
the end of wolves.
http://www.thefader.com/2016/02/26/kanye-west-story-of-ultralight-beam-interview-fonzworth-bentley
this album a bit. there's some great playing and samples. i think I like
most of the songs on this tbh.
a lot of good collabos. i wouldn’t have expected havoc to be on
this. kareem riggins on 30 hours. ty dolla $ign tracks. andre on 30 hours.
lots of nice moments.
stuff like when the beat drops on freestyle 4. or when frank ocean comes in at
the end of wolves.
http://www.thefader.com/2016/02/26/kanye-west-story-of-ultralight-beam-interview-fonzworth-bentley
DocMcCoy said:
At times it feels as if 'Ye himself is simply one of the bigger names amongst a cast of thousands rather than the Star of the Show. Certainly it seems he's moving more towards the more traditional producer role, a la Dre or even Quincy Jones, roping in whoever he thinks is most capable of Actualizing His Vision. It's making for some pretty extraordinary records, I know that much.
Reading through the credits I'm getting more of a James Lavelle vibe.
Kanye is THE name, the brand that's enabling the more talented people to get their stuff into the mainstream. Instrumentals are a must IMHO.
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