Mingering Mike - an IMAGINARY record collection?!
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
dude, whats rilly dude?
fucking MINGERING MIKE!
dude brought THEE ALIEN out of hiding to challah about this man...
chimp for real thats the find of the decade - i am not kidding - HOLLER!!!
i need to know more asap... my mind has been officially blown.
dude, i been rationing these very last posts by i could NOT HOLD THIS IN.
"PEOPLE... HOLD ON" (in a major way!)
you in DC? im on the way holmes. the snow just might tie me up, but ill be there by saturday. think im lying when im not? CHALLAH!!!
okay, back to the hiding/formulating/transforming/wilding/(staying warm)/g.e.t.t.i.n.g.r.e.a.d.y.f.o.r.t.h.e.u.b.e.r.b.l.a.s.t.o.f.f.f.i.n.a.l.p.o.s.t.s.o.n.s.o.u.l.s.t.r.u.t.a.s.A.I.
stay tuned
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whats really good?
(mingering mike!)
dude, whats rilly dude?
fucking MINGERING MIKE!
dude brought THEE ALIEN out of hiding to challah about this man...
chimp for real thats the find of the decade - i am not kidding - HOLLER!!!
i need to know more asap... my mind has been officially blown.
dude, i been rationing these very last posts by i could NOT HOLD THIS IN.
"PEOPLE... HOLD ON" (in a major way!)
you in DC? im on the way holmes. the snow just might tie me up, but ill be there by saturday. think im lying when im not? CHALLAH!!!
okay, back to the hiding/formulating/transforming/wilding/(staying warm)/g.e.t.t.i.n.g.r.e.a.d.y.f.o.r.t.h.e.u.b.e.r.b.l.a.s.t.o.f.f.f.i.n.a.l.p.o.s.t.s.o.n.s.o.u.l.s.t.r.u.t.a.s.A.I.
stay tuned
7 down
3 to go
whats really good?
(mingering mike!)
mannybolone said:Hey, you should seriously think about doing something on this for Wax Poetics - maybe track down this cat (if he's still around).
--Oliver
I second that. This is honestly one of the best threads I've seen on here. Thanks for sharing.
--Oliver
I second that. This is honestly one of the best threads I've seen on here. Thanks for sharing.
The more I read this thread, look at the pics, and think about this whole thing the more I'm amazed and blown away. You basically have someone's whole life story for a certain time sitting right in your hands done in a way that all of us on this board can relate to. That is some truly amazing junk right there.
soulmarcosa said:
But it's weird.. isn't "minger" UK slang for an ugly girl or a generally ugly, unpleasant and/or stanky person?
Yeah, I think you're right, but I also recognize as a term regarding (cover your ears, Marco) meat processing. One of my dad's uncles used to work at a slaughterhouse in Pittsburgh, and I distinctly remember him mentioning a guy who either was a minger or worked the minger--can't remember if "minger" referred to the guy or to the machine. But anyway, maybe Mike worked at a packing house or something. Does much of that industry go on in or around DC?
Whatever the case, though, I'll add my voice to the chorus, Chimp: those are some pretty effin' remarkable artifacts. Like you said, they obviously represent a lot of Mike's time and effort, and you get many many extra points for your impulse to reunite them with their creator. That shit will definitely come back to you.
But it's weird.. isn't "minger" UK slang for an ugly girl or a generally ugly, unpleasant and/or stanky person?
Yeah, I think you're right, but I also recognize as a term regarding (cover your ears, Marco) meat processing. One of my dad's uncles used to work at a slaughterhouse in Pittsburgh, and I distinctly remember him mentioning a guy who either was a minger or worked the minger--can't remember if "minger" referred to the guy or to the machine. But anyway, maybe Mike worked at a packing house or something. Does much of that industry go on in or around DC?
Whatever the case, though, I'll add my voice to the chorus, Chimp: those are some pretty effin' remarkable artifacts. Like you said, they obviously represent a lot of Mike's time and effort, and you get many many extra points for your impulse to reunite them with their creator. That shit will definitely come back to you.
nah...a lot of people would find this just as amazing as we do, I'm sure. I know this kind of thing would go over great at a spot like La Luz De Jesus in Hollywood. You really need to track this dude down and do a story in Wax Poetics and/or some type of a gallery opening with these (with his consent of course, given that you actually track him down)
seriously though, you unearthed something very cool.
seriously though, you unearthed something very cool.
The factory has been built since 1980 around the city of KARAJ for processing the meat (Beef and Mutton). The factory has been controlled under the mines try of hygiene, treatment and medical training and also the standard office of Iran. The measurement of the land of factory is about 5000 S.Meters and the measurement of building is about 2000 S.Meters. The factory has different automatic machines for slaughtering - mingering - mixing raw materials ö producing Different kinds and sizes of Burgers - Kababs - Pizzas and etc.. The capacity of storage for raw materials is about 600 Tones and the capacity of cold storages (-20 Cen) are about 400 tons and capacity of freezing tunnels are about 20 tons per day. The capacity of productions is about 20 tons per 16 hours.The factory has four refrigeration trucks for transporting , the frozen production to all parts of Iran. The factory has large electrical generator for emergency cases and also a large laboratory with different department for chemical and microbiological tests and also a section for reseach and development for preparing new production. The staffs of factory are about 50 persons including specialists - Technologists - Employees - and workers. The manager of the production is able to produce any kinds of meat production by the test of customers. The factory has a head office at Tehran with computer section and commercial department with qualified staff to transfer all information to customers.
Start making phone calls.
Start making phone calls.
I have to agree with everyone here that this is an amazing folk-art find. Stylistically amateur but really on target for the kind of thing people are collecting nowadays.
For some reason it reminds of me of Chicago artist Henry Darger.
Oliver is right. Your top priority now is to track down Mingering Mike. Find out what locker these came out of and secure the original owner's telephone number at any cost. Who knows what you'll find.
Too bad there is no original music to go with them. But who knows what you'll find if you keep digging. If a person went to such great lengths to make album covers, there is almost near certainty that they did some kind of recording. It may never have been pressed, but tapes must have existed.
For some reason it reminds of me of Chicago artist Henry Darger.
Oliver is right. Your top priority now is to track down Mingering Mike. Find out what locker these came out of and secure the original owner's telephone number at any cost. Who knows what you'll find.
Too bad there is no original music to go with them. But who knows what you'll find if you keep digging. If a person went to such great lengths to make album covers, there is almost near certainty that they did some kind of recording. It may never have been pressed, but tapes must have existed.
best find in a few years from what ive heard. this is amazing.
research-wise.
1)photocopy the picture and some of the jackets (never walk around the ogs) and show them around.
2)talk to old record store owners...not the kids that work there
3)run the old black bars and ask bartenders.
4)theres gotta be old jazz and soul singers/musicians still playing in the area. ask! ask! ask!
5)any real deep deep collectors in that area? ask them.
this is something that needs to be preserved man. ive never seen anything like it. would love to hear tracks. shit i would buy cdrs of this shit. congrats!
research-wise.
1)photocopy the picture and some of the jackets (never walk around the ogs) and show them around.
2)talk to old record store owners...not the kids that work there
3)run the old black bars and ask bartenders.
4)theres gotta be old jazz and soul singers/musicians still playing in the area. ask! ask! ask!
5)any real deep deep collectors in that area? ask them.
this is something that needs to be preserved man. ive never seen anything like it. would love to hear tracks. shit i would buy cdrs of this shit. congrats!
Man, I'm so glad you guys are as excited about these as I am- I showed em to everybody in my office after I found em and everybody thought I was a total freak!!
I'm busy at work right now, but I promise to answer your questions and post more pix and details from the covers as soon as I can. A lot of the covers are unfinished and are only penciled in, but they're still pretty cool. Just wait until you see the lyrics!
I actually work as a private investigator, so I'll do my best to track Mingering Mike down. Shouldn't be too hard- I know the dealer who I bought these from, and I know which storage facility they came from.
Fatback, I hope you find those 45's! We can combine them all and come up with a full discography!
Btw, some of the covers are by another dude called "Joseph War". I don't know if this was a buddy or musical partner of Mike's, or an alter ego or what. I'll post those, too (the artwork is definitely by the same guy).
Peace!
I'm busy at work right now, but I promise to answer your questions and post more pix and details from the covers as soon as I can. A lot of the covers are unfinished and are only penciled in, but they're still pretty cool. Just wait until you see the lyrics!
I actually work as a private investigator, so I'll do my best to track Mingering Mike down. Shouldn't be too hard- I know the dealer who I bought these from, and I know which storage facility they came from.
Fatback, I hope you find those 45's! We can combine them all and come up with a full discography!
Btw, some of the covers are by another dude called "Joseph War". I don't know if this was a buddy or musical partner of Mike's, or an alter ego or what. I'll post those, too (the artwork is definitely by the same guy).
Peace!
jinx74 said:best find in a few years from what ive heard. this is amazing.
research-wise.
1)photocopy the picture and some of the jackets (never walk around the ogs) and show them around.
2)talk to old record store owners...not the kids that work there
3)run the old black bars and ask bartenders.
4)theres gotta be old jazz and soul singers/musicians still playing in the area. ask! ask! ask!
5)any real deep deep collectors in that area? ask them.
this is something that needs to be preserved man. ive never seen anything like it. would love to hear tracks. shit i would buy cdrs of this shit. congrats!
I am betting, this guy was not a musician, and never showed his art to anyone. I bet he went to work, then went home and created his alter egos. And I guess he went to the record store some too.
Dori these are incredible!
So did any one see "The Throne" at the National Portrait Gallery. I don't know if it's still on display somewhere, but I saw it there in the 80's. The story, as I recall, was this postman went home every night for years, and worked on this incredible alter he was making in his garage. He had a whole religious world view that was driving his work. As I recall it was not discovered until his death.
Dan
research-wise.
1)photocopy the picture and some of the jackets (never walk around the ogs) and show them around.
2)talk to old record store owners...not the kids that work there
3)run the old black bars and ask bartenders.
4)theres gotta be old jazz and soul singers/musicians still playing in the area. ask! ask! ask!
5)any real deep deep collectors in that area? ask them.
this is something that needs to be preserved man. ive never seen anything like it. would love to hear tracks. shit i would buy cdrs of this shit. congrats!
I am betting, this guy was not a musician, and never showed his art to anyone. I bet he went to work, then went home and created his alter egos. And I guess he went to the record store some too.
Dori these are incredible!
So did any one see "The Throne" at the National Portrait Gallery. I don't know if it's still on display somewhere, but I saw it there in the 80's. The story, as I recall, was this postman went home every night for years, and worked on this incredible alter he was making in his garage. He had a whole religious world view that was driving his work. As I recall it was not discovered until his death.
Dan
indiana45s said:If a person went to such great lengths to make album covers, there is almost near certainty that they did some kind of recording.
You think so? To me, it seems like all of this is obviously the handiwork of someone trying to get as close as possible to the music they love and the lifestyle that said music represents. But, the heightened degree of the mimicry (as well as the approach taken) makes me suspect that the guy was a non-musician--that, had he had the resources to at all reproduce anything approximating the musical content, he wouldn't have focused so intensely on the packaging. Plus, though I can't exactly pinpoint why, the fact that he painted right on the vinyl makes me think that the actual music was a very small part of the equation for Mike. All of the depictions are pretty literal: nightclubs, concert halls, shows in the park, fights, drugs. It seems like here he's reaching more for an emulation of the attitude, of the lifestyle; that, in his mind, the central creative act--the act of producing the music that would actually gain him entree into that world, that lifestyle--was probably relegated to the role of bothersome middle-man.
That being said, I sure hope I'm wrong. Any transmissions from this guy would almost certainly be nothing short of revelatory.
You think so? To me, it seems like all of this is obviously the handiwork of someone trying to get as close as possible to the music they love and the lifestyle that said music represents. But, the heightened degree of the mimicry (as well as the approach taken) makes me suspect that the guy was a non-musician--that, had he had the resources to at all reproduce anything approximating the musical content, he wouldn't have focused so intensely on the packaging. Plus, though I can't exactly pinpoint why, the fact that he painted right on the vinyl makes me think that the actual music was a very small part of the equation for Mike. All of the depictions are pretty literal: nightclubs, concert halls, shows in the park, fights, drugs. It seems like here he's reaching more for an emulation of the attitude, of the lifestyle; that, in his mind, the central creative act--the act of producing the music that would actually gain him entree into that world, that lifestyle--was probably relegated to the role of bothersome middle-man.
That being said, I sure hope I'm wrong. Any transmissions from this guy would almost certainly be nothing short of revelatory.
LaserWolf said:So did any one see "The Throne" at the National Portrait Gallery. I don't know if it's still on display somewhere, but I saw it there in the 80's. The story, as I recall, was this postman went home every night for years, and worked on this incredible alter he was making in his garage. He had a whole religious world view that was driving his work. As I recall it was not discovered until his death.
Dan
I went last year to see the The Throne of the Third Heaven of the Nations Millennium General Assembly, but the Gallery's closed until 2006. It was kind of a pilgrimage for me - the poet denis johnson wrote a long poem about the Throne. It's maker, James Hampton, worked as a janitor for the appropriately generic GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION in D.C.
When this thread came up, the first thing I thought of was the throne. good call Dan. Would be strange if James Hampton and Mingering Mike were somehow connected.
Chimp, it couldn't have fallen into better hands... I mean, a PI!
Dan
I went last year to see the The Throne of the Third Heaven of the Nations Millennium General Assembly, but the Gallery's closed until 2006. It was kind of a pilgrimage for me - the poet denis johnson wrote a long poem about the Throne. It's maker, James Hampton, worked as a janitor for the appropriately generic GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION in D.C.
When this thread came up, the first thing I thought of was the throne. good call Dan. Would be strange if James Hampton and Mingering Mike were somehow connected.
Chimp, it couldn't have fallen into better hands... I mean, a PI!
Amazing pieces of work. It kind of goes back to that time when we were all kids and wanted to be the people we saw on the record covers. If you can't find this Mike guy, maybe someone can find a family member. It would be nice to attach a story to this.
Keep this one rising to the top.
He is not a Black Imaginary Funk Superstar Folk Artist,
but an Imaginary Funk Superstar Folk Artist Who Happens To Be Black.
anybody know what make/model of portable he's got in
that picnic in the park jumpoff?
He is not a Black Imaginary Funk Superstar Folk Artist,
but an Imaginary Funk Superstar Folk Artist Who Happens To Be Black.
anybody know what make/model of portable he's got in
that picnic in the park jumpoff?
