New Music / Release Thread



Junior said:


Duder, you're into the footwork? I've dabbled a little but with a lot of it I find it hard to escape the feeling that it's just a very late to the party version of less exploratory 90s DnB.

The vinyl only release thing is even more painful today than it used to be when everything was vinyl only: hear a great track, look it up, discover it's vinyl only, ignore this and spend the next half hour visiting every single online store to see if they have the digital version, give up, go to local record stores, find that it was a limited release, cry.






RE: Footwork, yeah, first time I heard it I thought "Hang on, this is just really shit Jungle", but I can get with some of the stuff that incorporates a few samples and different drum sounds (if only to have alternative tracks to mix with Jungle), and I think UK artists who have a go at footwork usually make something more imaginative than a guy leaning on a drum pad and "pussy-pussy-pussy-pussy-bitch-bitch-bitch" :ohsnap:

RE: vinyl only, yeah, I've followed that pattern and take it further - I find the artist or label on soundcloud and harass the fuckers into releasing digitally*. It's worked only a couple of times out of dozens of attempts, but the simplest argument I can give them is that I want to pay for something that costs them nothing to produce. Bandcamp is always worth checking when juno/boomkat/beatport/bleep are coming up empty.



*This cock-smoker is having none of it:
https://soundcloud.com/rising-sun/soundfile-rising-sun-yours-7inch-version-cat-kristofferson-0065-7inch-vinyl
...what a fucking smeggy bellend.
 


Duderonomy said:



Junior said:


Duder, you're into the footwork? I've dabbled a little but with a lot of it I find it hard to escape the feeling that it's just a very late to the party version of less exploratory 90s DnB.

The vinyl only release thing is even more painful today than it used to be when everything was vinyl only: hear a great track, look it up, discover it's vinyl only, ignore this and spend the next half hour visiting every single online store to see if they have the digital version, give up, go to local record stores, find that it was a limited release, cry.






RE: Footwork, yeah, first time I heard it I thought "Hang on, this is just really shit Jungle", but I can get with some of the stuff that incorporates a few samples and different drum sounds (if only to have alternative tracks to mix with Jungle), and I think UK artists who have a go at footwork usually make something more imaginative than a guy leaning on a drum pad and "pussy-pussy-pussy-pussy-bitch-bitch-bitch" :ohsnap:

RE: vinyl only, yeah, I've followed that pattern and take it further - I find the artist or label on soundcloud and harass the fuckers into releasing digitally. It's worked only a couple of times out of dozens of attempts, but the simplest argument I can give them is that I want to pay for something that costs them nothing to produce. Bandcamp is always worth checking when juno/boomkat/beatport/bleep are coming up empty.




Ha ha, yeah that's pretty much my exact experience with footwork to date, I've just found it too repetitive, lacking in textures and missing the rough edges. I liked Rashad's Let It Go but mainly as it sounded similar to early Jonny L.....Please to recommend some UK stuff to work the foot to.

I hadn't even thought of begging/harassing them to release it. Like you say, keeping the digital locked away really doesn't make sense to me as, if it's decent, the vinyl will sell out regardless of whether it's available digitally or not. Plus they don't get the money off the discogs resales anyway (or do they......).
 
Well, the two We Buy Gold releases are anonymous UK artists, and the Om Unit Footwork remixes of Jungle classics are all great:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3JfL3_OeYghcjZyeUhVRnIyQVU/view?usp=sharing

Mega-thanks to Ketan for sharing those.

This is new, full track has more of the dreamy synths:
https://soundcloud.com/imonlydjdiamond/dozin
 
the new solange is great.

https://soundcloud.com/goldlink/untitled-isaiah-rashad
 


Duderonomy said:

Well, the two We Buy Gold releases are anonymous UK artists, and the Om Unit Footwork remixes of Jungle classics are all great:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3JfL3_OeYghcjZyeUhVRnIyQVU/view?usp=sharing

Mega-thanks to Ketan for sharing those.

This is new, full track has more of the dreamy synths:
https://soundcloud.com/imonlydjdiamond/dozin




Cheers L*o, I'm really liking the synths on that snippet - will hunt down the full track. I will also hit the drive when I get home this evening. I wish everything was for sale on Bandcamp;I always feel more fulfilled when I purchase through that system.

In other electronic news, been enjoying a lot of the stuff that Ital Tek has been releasing recently, reminds me of older Kuedo stuff. Which is fine by me.

In other non electronic news, off to see Circuit Des Yeux touring the Jackie Lynn EP/Persona next week in a tiny little venue. Very interested to see how it translates (more than anything am excited about seeing that voice in the flesh).

https://soundcloud.com/thrilljockey/alien-love-1
 
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Weyes Blood
This is soooooo dreamy.
 
Kuedo has a new lp. It's a good headphone listen, he's obviously gotten really into sound design and stereo placement.

The Euro Footwork stuff is interesting, i heard some good Polish stuff the other day. but it really belongs here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fLW6eXj8g
most of this new stuff is reheated dnb, not that theres anything worng with that. I really liked Lil Jabba's first lp back when it was released, probably my favourite footwork longplayer. Had high hopes for the newish Dj Earl with it's OPN collaborations but it didn't do much for me.

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this is one of the few new things i've got in rotation lately



 
Dj Spinn remix on the Endtroducing DJ Shadow remix album out soon. I was very skeptical when I heard about it but the Spinn remix is fiya.
 


Okem said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fLW6eXj8g
most of this new stuff is reheated dnb, not that theres anything worng with that.





Hah - I can hear a Luke Vibert (Plug) tune in there with footwork beats over it and it just sounds so poop in comparison.
I wonder if those kids have even heard Jungle? So much better for dancing to imo.
 


Duderonomy said:



Okem said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fLW6eXj8g
most of this new stuff is reheated dnb, not that theres anything worng with that.





Hah - I can hear a Luke Vibert (Plug) tune in there with footwork beats over it and it just sounds so poop in comparison.
I wonder if those kids have even heard Jungle? So much better for dancing to imo.




There's a choppy, arrested quality in footwork/juke that's missing--or at least not as central--in jungle/d n' b, which seems to be more focused on forward motion. Forward is not always the thing, though, maybe particularly if you're weeknight rocking inside a brightly-lit storefront somewhere out in the endless nameless of America. Even a curdled old fuck like me can see the inherent ridiculousness of the idea that these kids would be dancing to something different if only they knew better, as if some A-plus record from some dude from some other city from fifteen or ten or two years ago is ever gonna do the same kind of damage or mean the same kind of thing as this B-minus mp3 of this track from my man's cousin's Soundcloud that's not even out yet. Like any kids dancing in any room anywhere, they know what they're doing, and know what they need. Great video.

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Last new thing I listened to was Allison Crutchfield's "Dean's Room." The accusation in its first chorus is "You just wanna / catch me alone!", the accusation in its second is "You just wanna / talk to me!", and I'm a little aflutter at how she makes the latter somehow sound dirtier than the former, like talking to her might be more of a score than getting her alone.
 


Duderonomy said:

Hah - I can hear a Luke Vibert (Plug) tune in there with footwork beats over it and it just sounds so poop in comparison.
I wonder if those kids have even heard Jungle? So much better for dancing to imo.




The difference between the two could be highlighted perfectly in the way people dance to it. One is created purposefully fit with frantic footwork dancing, whilst the dancing at a Jungle / dnb night is very much secondary and pretty nondescript.

Origins wise, Footwork has fuck all to do with jungle, it comes from Juke and Chicago Ghetto House (with some hip hop production techniques mixed in). It was mostly made on an mpc with the beats programmed in live, unlike Jungle that was, much more slowly, produced in a DAW with looped samples. This is very much reflected in both musical forms and makes them entirely different beasts. It was only when footwork got popular in the UK that the Jungle comparison was made and dots were joined by European artists, the results of which were often rather tepid in comparison. It is possible to enjoy both for what they are, but twisting it to be like footwork is just some jungle derived misstep is just plain wrong. It's not an easy listen if you're expecting the relative smoothness of jungle that's for sure, but they both hold their own rewards and merits.
 
that footwork battle vid is crazy good. thanks for sharing that, Okem.

yeah, footwork dancing is definitely >>> jungle dancing. word to jnco never making a comeback. actually, jungle dancing in my neck was more about rapid hand dancing (ifuknowwhatimean), which lends an odd symmetry to the comparison.

Duder - crazy that someone either is up on Plug in the footwork scene, or just sampling that same Major Harris break. i agree it doesn't have the same punch. that said, the track at 1:30 had a Vibert vibe and was done just right.
 


Hairy Moody said:



Duderonomy said:



Okem said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fLW6eXj8g
most of this new stuff is reheated dnb, not that theres anything worng with that.





Hah - I can hear a Luke Vibert (Plug) tune in there with footwork beats over it and it just sounds so poop in comparison.
I wonder if those kids have even heard Jungle? So much better for dancing to imo.


Even a curdled old fuck like me can see the inherent ridiculousness of the idea that these kids would be dancing to something different if only they knew better



Oh I know, it's a pure

statement, as if they care that someone thinks shit older than them is fresh.
 
I've only read heard Do You Need My Love from Weyes Blood's new album and that is a hell of a tune. So very lush but strangely raw at the same time.

Gave the new Kuedo a skip through and decided it wasn't really a skipthrough type album; need to revisit as Severant is one of my favourite albums of the last ten years.

Re: Footwork - as someone who grew up on hardcore and subsequently jungle and so on I'm well aware that I'm missing the point by sitting in an office listening to this on headphones. It's not really for me despite trying my best but literally stumbled onto a Footwork event(?) in an abandoned car park at 2am one Friday night and can confirm that it's an entirely different musical experience when you have the music and the movement. And this lot were absolute novices compared to the crazy shit Okem posted above.

Also, +1 for the handshape dancing to Jungle. Feet were very happy to do the skip step and let the hands do the work.
 


Junior said:

I've only read heard Do You Need My Love from Weyes Blood's new album and that is a hell of a tune. So very lush but strangely raw at the same time.





Yea, the production is immaculate.
The first lp is way too Medieval Times dinner theatre same-sounding for me. The Cardamom Times ep sounded like it moved out of the field and into the church but still lacked something. I think this new one is a refinement and expansion of the first two.
The whole thing is worth a listen.
And they did a vinyl release.
 
some other footwork shit, not new but interesting still

a doc on the Chicago scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlJ88YZ3U8

DJ Clent making beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkvuvGFHThQ

another battle vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5k99c9uR9g

bonus beat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOuviD9kA34