SS set sale sellers (fuc!< ebayR)

[pencilface]

people must shift stuff on the set sales here - as i seem to miss out on everything i want to grip

It's the problem with living in a dif. time zone.
i've grumbled to myself aboutthis many a time. especially with the pricing on the setsales here and on waxidermy still being about a million times cheaper than buying the records here in the UK!!!

 

[Okem]

people must shift stuff on the set sales here - as i seem to miss out on everything i want to grip

It's the problem with living in a dif. time zone.
i've grumbled to myself about this many a time. especially with the pricing on the setsales here and on waxidermy still being about a million times cheaper than buying the records here in the UK!!!

Plastic Wax < Set Sales x 1,000,000 + 1

 

[hcrink]

There is more to this than "price the good records here and sell the bullshit on eBay". It doesn't really work like that. At the end of the day, the money is on eBay not here. Selling on forums is also far from the beautiful hassle free expression of brotherly love that some people make it out to be. I'm not saying that set sales aren't a great way to sell records, or that eBay is always so much better, but these threads are always super bias. Dudes who want Skull Snaps without the bidding war talking up the evils of eBay... until they find some gross $300 modern soul record then it's off to eBay with their 17 feedback points.

i very regularly get better prices at set sale than I i have done on ebay. The opposite is also true of course, depending on teh record, but if you know its a $50 record, why not try it at $50 first, instead of watching 13 watchers not bid after a week. If I find a $300 modern soul record, my instinct is to flip it for $300 immediately to someone on soul-source or fryers, and ebay it if it doesn't sell, because if it doesn't sell immediately to the people who are said to want that sort of thing then they quite possibly don't, and it thus quite probably isn't worth $300 and you might as well let the vicissitudes of ebay-bidders paypal funds sort it out i.e. see it go for $137.56. I don't want Skull Snaps, bidding war or not, but if I did, it would be far easier for me to see one at set sale and then pay out the money being asked.
What's your point?

I was just trying to explain why eBay dealers aren't generally going to offer the cream of their crop on a message board. If you are trying to sell one or two or ten in demand records at a time set sales are great. If you have 50 or 100 or 500 to sell and you want respectable prices for mediocre shit like Dennis Coffey fried chicken panties and one-tracker high school band bonerz then you need to run it on a list with shit like Roy Ayers He's Coming, etc.

 

[pencilface]

Plastic Wax < Set Sales x 1,000,000 + 1

plastic wax is the shining beacon in an otherwise fairly shite bristol record shopping experience.

 

[Okem]

Plastic Wax

I always preferred Prime Cuts. Plastic Wax is only good when the soul dude is there and you can go look out the back. I never found much in the shop, and they have piles of crap to wade through. Was I missing out?

 

[shooterali]

I have to have a special point? I don't really, beyond what I said: I was just trying to explain why ebay doesn't always work best, especially for people who aren't ebay dealers, the same type of people I assume you're referring for most of your post e.g. these dudes with the skull snaps and modern record who you are suggesting are the guilty parties when it comes to whinging about ebay. It's not always people who 'don't want a bidding war' from the buying end: sometimes from the selling end its easier to go straight ahead with a set sale rather than risk the hoped for war turning out to be a minor skirmish.

on this one. The guys with SKULLSnaps that are complaining about EBAy are doing so because situations that occur "Like the whole non paying bidder or charge backs,lost packages". The same complaints come about with the Set Sales on here.

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

It's just simple mathematics. A successful list sells 2/3 of the records on it, if you're posting a list of maybe 30 items across different price ranges you're looking at MAYBE 750-1000 bucks at most.

Whereas on ebay, if I've got a list of 100 items, 90 of them will sell and I will make 4k.

I like to do set sales for a short list of items that I think people will want but I do not like "thinning" out my ebay stash to cherry pick for the message board lists - it makes the auction list a lot less strong.

Also for what it's worth I have had less and less success selling records for the prices I want on these set sales... if something's priced very cheap it's going to fly but I'm not really interested in selling records for 25-50% less than I can otherwise get.

I like doing these set sales but as a seller I kind of resent being told that I need to be doing them instead of ebay. Fuck that shit.

 

[pencilface]

Plastic Wax

I always preferred Prime Cuts. Plastic Wax is only good when the soul dude is there and you can go look out the back. I never found much in the shop, and they have piles of crap to wade through. Was I missing out?
i've pulled loads more great stuff out the front than the back -- as the sou ldude knows what verythings worth - but loads of stuff slips through the gabs out the front.
im trying to think of some examples now.....

pink fairies albums for ??2. some killer libraries for a fiver a pop. amon duul albums for ??4. more vinyl vulture classics in the ??1 & ??2 bins than you can shake a stick at. its fun going through all the crap as it's got a really high turnover rate.

prime cuts is cool - but prices are high with not so much turnover ... moog indigo on the wall for ??60 for about 3 years

 

[el_sparko]

I'm not feeling Plastic Wax that much, they don't let you listen to records very often (never a good look in a record store) and have all that unpriced stuff under the shelves. Plus you have to look in ??1,2,3 etc... bins really often to find any heat and even then it's in beat up condition.
Occasional bargains though...

 

[Deejay_OM]

It's just simple mathematics. A successful list sells 2/3 of the records on it, if you're posting a list of maybe 30 items across different price ranges you're looking at MAYBE 750-1000 bucks at most.

Whereas on ebay, if I've got a list of 100 items, 90 of them will sell and I will make 4k.

I like to do set sales for a short list of items that I think people will want but I do not like "thinning" out my ebay stash to cherry pick for the message board lists - it makes the auction list a lot less strong.

Also for what it's worth I have had less and less success selling records for the prices I want on these set sales... if something's priced very cheap it's going to fly but I'm not really interested in selling records for 25-50% less than I can otherwise get.

I like doing these set sales but as a seller I kind of resent being told that I need to be doing them instead of ebay. Fuck that shit.

agreed...I think it comes down to

A) will the people on here pay the prices for the cherry stuff that you want
B) will you lose out money on ebay because those key things aren't there...


example, I'm doing a 45 auction coming up...got a M- copy of "Theme From Black Belt Jones"...now do I offer it on here, and put a price that is what I would get off of ebay...or do I put on ebay and hope that it goes buck wild (as sometimes happens), and in turn that the attention that record brings helps to get the records around it to sell for more....

the probelm I see is this....you do get the quick money off of setsale...but, is it what you could get? and how much may you have lost because of not having that with the other records....I'm just using this as an example...believe me the theme from black belt is not the crown jewel of my auctions...haha...

you have to look at it from the seller viewpoint...not the guy who likes records, and shit like that....we're talking record dealers...which is the logic behind johnny's very salient points...what up johnny! me and my girl want to come back out soon...will bring trades next time

 

[shooterali]

It's just simple mathematics. A successful list sells 2/3 of the records on it, if you're posting a list of maybe 30 items across different price ranges you're looking at MAYBE 750-1000 bucks at most.

Whereas on ebay, if I've got a list of 100 items, 90 of them will sell and I will make 4k.

I like to do set sales for a short list of items that I think people will want but I do not like "thinning" out my ebay stash to cherry pick for the message board lists - it makes the auction list a lot less strong.

Also for what it's worth I have had less and less success selling records for the prices I want on these set sales... if something's priced very cheap it's going to fly but I'm not really interested in selling records for 25-50% less than I can otherwise get.

I like doing these set sales but as a seller I kind of resent being told that I need to be doing them instead of ebay. Fuck that shit.

My luck with set sales has been dismal. My very first sale I did alright but lately...Nope and the good stuff I have I trade or sale when I'm checking out record shows.

 

[beatlust]

i understand sellers not liking ebay because the money isnt right. i dont like ebay because of the prices people pay for wax.. who saw that sylvers II go for $150?? i am willing to pay fair market value for the records im after, ebay just is getting to be a giant rip-off for those who cant shop ebay all weeklong just snipe an auction or two sunday afternoon.. unless its a bigger ticket item like mpcs, cars, bikes..ebay isnt a deal.. for records its a sellers dream (sometimes). but my post wasnt to complain about ebay, it was just to nicely (ihope) request some sellers to consider selling on here.

 

[shooterali]

i understand sellers not liking ebay because the money isnt right. i dont like ebay because of the prices people pay for wax.. who saw that sylvers II go for $150?? i am willing to pay fair market value for the records im after, ebay just is getting to be a giant rip-off for those who cant shop ebay all weeklong just snipe an auction or two sunday afternoon.. unless its a bigger ticket item like mpcs, cars, bikes..ebay isnt a deal.. for records its a sellers dream (sometimes). but my post wasnt to complain about ebay, it was just to nicely (ihope) request some sellers to consider selling on here.

yeah, I understand. You see TheNon has all three JuJUoneness for sale?
If you ask, the rares will appear.

 

[spelunk]

You guys really sound like you can't find good records in the real world if this is that big an issue for you.

I really don't see what complaint buyers have about the whole eBay system. There are tons of deals to be had. You have the power of leaving negative feedback and chargebacks. You get to marinate on your bid decision for a week before deciding. You can usually hear the record before you buy it. How much more convenient does it get?

 

[beatlust]

i understand sellers not liking SETSALES because the money isnt right. i dont like ebay because of the prices people pay for wax.. who saw that sylvers II go for $150?? i am willing to pay fair market value for the records im after, ebay just is getting to be a giant rip-off for those who cant shop ebay all weeklong just snipe an auction or two sunday afternoon.. unless its a bigger ticket item like mpcs, cars, bikes..ebay isnt a deal.. for records its a sellers dream (sometimes). but my post wasnt to complain about ebay, it was just to nicely (ihope) request some sellers to consider selling on here.

whoops it was supposed to read 'setsales' not ebay..

 

[hcrink]

There is more to this than "price the good records here and sell the bullshit on eBay". It doesn't really work like that. At the end of the day, the money is on eBay not here. Selling on forums is also far from the beautiful hassle free expression of brotherly love that some people make it out to be. I'm not saying that set sales aren't a great way to sell records, or that eBay is always so much better, but these threads are always super bias. Dudes who want Skull Snaps without the bidding war talking up the evils of eBay... until they find some gross $300 modern soul record then it's off to eBay with their 17 feedback points.

i very regularly get better prices at set sale than I i have done on ebay. The opposite is also true of course, depending on teh record, but if you know its a $50 record, why not try it at $50 first, instead of watching 13 watchers not bid after a week. If I find a $300 modern soul record, my instinct is to flip it for $300 immediately to someone on soul-source or fryers, and ebay it if it doesn't sell, because if it doesn't sell immediately to the people who are said to want that sort of thing then they quite possibly don't, and it thus quite probably isn't worth $300 and you might as well let the vicissitudes of ebay-bidders paypal funds sort it out i.e. see it go for $137.56. I don't want Skull Snaps, bidding war or not, but if I did, it would be far easier for me to see one at set sale and then pay out the money being asked.
What's your point?

I was just trying to explain why eBay dealers aren't generally going to offer the cream of their crop on a message board. If you are trying to sell one or two or ten in demand records at a time set sales are great. If you have 50 or 100 or 500 to sell and you want respectable prices for mediocre shit like Dennis Coffey fried chicken panties and one-tracker high school band bonerz then you need to run it on a list with shit like Roy Ayers He's Coming, etc.
I have to have a special point? I don't really, beyond what I said: I was just trying to explain why ebay doesn't always work best, especially for people who aren't ebay dealers, the same type of people I assume you're referring for most of your post e.g. these dudes with the skull snaps and modern record who you are suggesting are the guilty parties when it comes to whinging about ebay. It's not always people who 'don't want a bidding war' from the buying end: sometimes from the selling end its easier to go straight ahead with a set sale rather than risk the hoped for war turning out to be a minor skirmish.
I'm not trying to push eBay on anyone here. I understand that it doesn't work for everyone. My point was simply that it's silly to say "Hey eBay dealers, I'm sick of all this bidding against other people stuff and having to pay top dollar for your records. Why don't, you know, just like offer them to me here so I don't have to do that?"... which is basically what this dude is asking.

 

[SoulOnIce]

i understand sellers not liking SETSALES because the money isnt right. i dont like ebay because of the prices people pay for wax.. who saw that sylvers II go for $150?? i am willing to pay fair market value for the records im after, ebay just is getting to be a giant rip-off for those who cant shop ebay all weeklong just snipe an auction or two sunday afternoon.. unless its a bigger ticket item like mpcs, cars, bikes..ebay isnt a deal.. for records its a sellers dream (sometimes). but my post wasnt to complain about ebay, it was just to nicely (ihope) request some sellers to consider selling on here.

whoops it was supposed to read 'setsales' not ebay..
LOL all 5 times?

 

[beatlust]

errm uh yeah..

 

[Reynaldo]

Why not just bid your "fair market value" amount on eBay? Sometimes you'll win (unless your "fair market value" price is unrealistically low).

 

[shooterali]

Hey, if bidding on ebay or the Set Sales aren't your thing. check out a few of the record sites that sale.

theres many on the web!