THE NBA PLAYOFFS - '09!!!
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Dude, what battle is that exactly? The one the NBA and Nike and Vitamin Water have hyped beyond control?
I like the puppet ads as much as the next guy but if Lebron can't even make the finals, that whole conversation is a non-starter.
Kobe's puppet is in the ballpark, but Lebron's isn't even close.
when i say "conversations" i'm talking about the discussions of who's better....
"Wha' ha' happen' wuz...."
Are u serious? Nothing?
Shaq has never been blamed for any of his teams failures and he's been on several underacheiving teams....Kobe is on another overacheiving team and he is expected to win a championship
True dat.
But nobody in their right mind was seein K.O.B.E and the Lakers win the whole thing since '04/Detroit. The Gasol trade put them over the top.
it's a silly expectation...If the Lakers win this year they would be the least talented team to win a championship since the 81 Celtics.
So how did the Lakers get the second best record in the NBA with such a poorly staffed team? Are you suggesting that if they win this year...it's a fluke?
Dude, what battle is that exactly? The one the NBA and Nike and Vitamin Water have hyped beyond control?
I like the puppet ads as much as the next guy but if Lebron can't even make the finals, that whole conversation is a non-starter.
Kobe's puppet is in the ballpark, but Lebron's isn't even close.
I think totally the opposite, actually.
Are u serious? Nothing?
So he just slipped into the league w/out ANY EXPECTATIONS?
Did the media not ride his jock in Orlando when he "went to the finals"?
Was Blue Chips an illusion? Top 50 of all-time?
Did the media not pay attention when he jumped ship to L.A.?
Did Pat Riley not come out of retirement because of Shaq? He sure didnt do it when Wade was solo.
Wasnt the Phoenix/Kerr gamble a big deal?
No Expectations?
U cant be that much of Shaq hattur?
Those are mainly accomplishments. Shaq's expectations are significantly lower than Kobe's mainly cuz of their difference in personality. Guards are also the focus of more attention than centers.
Are u serious? Nothing?
So he just slipped into the league w/out ANY EXPECTATIONS?
Did the media not ride his jock in Orlando when he "went to the finals"?
Was Blue Chips an illusion? Top 50 of all-time?
Did the media not pay attention when he jumped ship to L.A.?
Did Pat Riley not come out of retirement because of Shaq? He sure didnt do it when Wade was solo.
Wasnt the Phoenix/Kerr gamble a big deal?
No Expectations?
U cant be that much of Shaq hattur?
Those are mainly accomplishments. Shaq's expectations are significantly lower than Kobe's mainly cuz of their difference in personality. Guards are also the focus of more attention than centers.
Oh and with regards to BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME debates, aside from the specialists, rarely do people bring up Bill Russell (11 rings) or Tim Duncan (4) as the best. As ridiculous as it sounds, a third of MJ's legacy is built upon Nike Air Jordans, Gatorade, Space Jam, and the like. You see kid's who barely saw Mike in his prime talking about he's the greatest of all time, and you begin to understand that the debate is based mainly on image. Science.
Kobe is a giant.
Lebron is a beast.
Michael was a superstar.
Michael's "legacy" is untouchable.
Kobe is a giant.
Lebron is a beast.
Michael was a superstar.
Michael's "legacy" is untouchable.
Are u serious? Nothing?
So he just slipped into the league w/out ANY EXPECTATIONS?
Did the media not ride his jock in Orlando when he "went to the finals"?
Was Blue Chips an illusion? Top 50 of all-time?
Did the media not pay attention when he jumped ship to L.A.?
Did Pat Riley not come out of retirement because of Shaq? He sure didnt do it when Wade was solo.
Wasnt the Phoenix/Kerr gamble a big deal?
No Expectations?
U cant be that much of Shaq hattur?
Those are mainly accomplishments. Shaq's expectations are significantly lower than Kobe's mainly cuz of their difference in personality. Guards are also the focus of more attention than centers.
I'm talking about the public's expectations. No one REALLy talks about them as a failure or buys their sneakers on such a large scale, as they do with Lebron, Kobe, even Ray Allen, Stephon Marbury.