Who is the most complicated or complex rapper?

Mel_Gibson

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Once again, I gotta roll with Ma$e on this one. Ice Cube, Tupac & Jay-Z are some of the more obvious picks but they didn't have me fooled like Ma$e did--which is, I think, a testament to his complexity.
 
i'll go with either GZA or bizzy bone. no joke on the last one.





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Posdnous from De La Soul really pushed some complex thoughts across in his lyrics from 3 Feet High onward. I still listen to Stakes is high and get amazed at how poignant his lyrics are and how underrated he's been for his entire career.

And no I'm not talking flashy word play as much as I am talking about real talk
 
Canibus without a question. I hate that people can associate with him is a horrid debut album, wyclef, and ll beef. this guy has been riddled with the worst production on the face of this earth which is why i guess he gets no props. and he's not some emo rap shit mc either, or nerd rap (i.e. opening an enclyopedia and just rhyming words that end in "tion") . this guy is a
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computer scientist/rocket scientist genius. his vocabulary is phenomenal and topic range is nuts. he hipped me up to something in my own culture that i wasn't aware of in his lyrics (the bhagvad gita) and his album "mic curriculum" take hip hop lyricism to a place not even touched before or since, its like listening to an intelligent professor give lectures on mythology and geology....but the production sucks. but its worth it to listen to for lyrics alone. i feel he's someone that will be appreciated by underground heads in the year 2040 when his style may become the norm. his annunciation sp? is so clear cut and precise and he can rap for days...

BUT

he made and makes continous stupid decisions. released the most wackest rap album ever (c true hollywood stories) and his latest are terrible too. i'l admit he's monotonous. not much personality...but damn,when he came out i printed his lyrics from ohhla.com and used to look up the terms he used that i didnt understand. in an industry that seems to dumb down intelligence "yo will, u used a school word?" i guess i can see why he gets no love. but if there was anyone that could show how mindblowing of a medium lyrical wizardry could be(and not just punchlines), i'd put my money on him. its a shame he's dumbing himself down now to be "down".
 
this guy is a computer scientist
i always felt he rapped about computers a bit much.
as sort of a computer geek myself, or someone who dabbled in programming, some of the technlogy metaphors he makes are hilarious and witty as hell. guess i'm a geek for enjoying it, but if an mc wants to rap about technology, history, metaphysics,sciences, i'm all ears, unlike those half-rate abstract nerd mcs who aren't saying nothing new.
 
i'm gunna threadjack here, but i've never gotten down to much E-40.
any particular tracks you would suggest for the uninitiated?

this is kinda like when yall ran down Too $hort stuff for Phill. did that experiment work btw?



 
As for "complex", I'll go with Mr Complex.
And "f@$k being hard, Posdonous is COMPLICATED".