anyone mess with Walking Dead?
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Grandfather said:They started production of the show with a contract for only one season. This is probably the main reason why they rushed so much of the character development. Its been renewed for two more seasons i think, that means a lot more time to develop the story and bring the zombie carnage.
but its also important to keep in mind that the book is hardly non stop zombie fest. theres a lot of dialogue and soap opera shit. i am into it and i think the book reads real well...but theres issues of the monthly with nary a zombie.
that said, the show made some new things up with the vatos and the trip to the cdc, but it hasnt got into hardly any of the solid gold plot lines from the book. some of the best characters havent popped up yet. so theres lot of room for improvement and i agree with what you said about them playing it for a 6 issue series...hopefully the longer runs will let them unfold plots better and dig into the real good shit
like....
but its also important to keep in mind that the book is hardly non stop zombie fest. theres a lot of dialogue and soap opera shit. i am into it and i think the book reads real well...but theres issues of the monthly with nary a zombie.
that said, the show made some new things up with the vatos and the trip to the cdc, but it hasnt got into hardly any of the solid gold plot lines from the book. some of the best characters havent popped up yet. so theres lot of room for improvement and i agree with what you said about them playing it for a 6 issue series...hopefully the longer runs will let them unfold plots better and dig into the real good shit
like....
sorry, but this show kinda sucks. I've watched all 6 episodes, and I wanted to like it, but it's just not very good and seems to be getting worse with each episode. I liked the first couple well enough but it got more and more LOST-like with each episode and the finale in the CDC building was like one of those old episodes of Fantasy Island where they would try to get all serious/sci-fi and it would just be embarrassing. acting is weak, characters are dull and zombies are often scarce.
I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
It definitely did drag in the last few episodes but I'm hoping season 2 comes back with a bang(and a bigger budget).
It is worth sticking with..
I haven't read the comics yet though...
It is worth sticking with..
I haven't read the comics yet though...
It was rumored that the entire writing staff was fired but apparently that wasn't case. They updated the page yesterday.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/the-walking-dead-lets-go-of-writers-considers-no-writing-staff-for-season-2
More on that here:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/12/walking_dead_writers_fired.html
http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/the-walking-dead-lets-go-of-writers-considers-no-writing-staff-for-season-2
More on that here:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/12/walking_dead_writers_fired.html
SoulOnIce said:sorry, but this show kinda sucks. I've watched all 6 episodes, and I wanted to like it, but it's just not very good and seems to be getting worse with each episode. I liked the first couple well enough but it got more and more LOST-like with each episode and the finale in the CDC building was like one of those old episodes of Fantasy Island where they would try to get all serious/sci-fi and it would just be embarrassing. acting is weak, characters are dull and zombies are often scarce.
I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
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I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
cos
99Problems said
lease to recommend some good zombie movies for a newbie...? Thanks!
i personally ride for either the Campy Zombie movies or the funny ones.
Shaun of the Dead is in my opinion, one of the best zombie movies i have ever seen. I also dug Zombieland that came out last year. Both have plenty of gore (which is a great thing in any zombie movie) but the humor makes it more digestible for me.
lease to recommend some good zombie movies for a newbie...? Thanks!i personally ride for either the Campy Zombie movies or the funny ones.
Shaun of the Dead is in my opinion, one of the best zombie movies i have ever seen. I also dug Zombieland that came out last year. Both have plenty of gore (which is a great thing in any zombie movie) but the humor makes it more digestible for me.
This thread reminds me of why I like to use message boards. In real life.. I don't know anyone who would ever take 5 minutes with me, and have a serious debate about a fucking zombie flick. I can't think of any other forms of communication or a better topic that deeply connects all the weirdos together.
example:
"ZOMBIES DON'T RUN!
I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. The best phantasmagoria uses reality to render the inconceivable conceivable. The speedy zombie seems implausible to me, even within the fantastic realm it inhabits. A biological agent, I'll buy. Some sort of super-virus? Sure, why not. But death? Death is a disability, not a superpower. It's hard to run with a cold, let alone the most debilitating malady of them all.
- Simon Pegg waxing poetic on the rules of Zombie"
I wholeheartedly agree.
- spidey
example:
"ZOMBIES DON'T RUN!
I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. The best phantasmagoria uses reality to render the inconceivable conceivable. The speedy zombie seems implausible to me, even within the fantastic realm it inhabits. A biological agent, I'll buy. Some sort of super-virus? Sure, why not. But death? Death is a disability, not a superpower. It's hard to run with a cold, let alone the most debilitating malady of them all.
- Simon Pegg waxing poetic on the rules of Zombie"
I wholeheartedly agree.
- spidey
SPlDEY said:
"ZOMBIES DON'T RUN!
I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. The best phantasmagoria uses reality to render the inconceivable conceivable. The speedy zombie seems implausible to me, even within the fantastic realm it inhabits. A biological agent, I'll buy. Some sort of super-virus? Sure, why not. But death? Death is a disability, not a superpower. It's hard to run with a cold, let alone the most debilitating malady of them all.
- Simon Pegg waxing poetic on the rules of Zombie"
I wholeheartedly agree.
- spidey
It's hard to argue with a statement as well crafted as Simon Pegg's. Particularly when it acknowledges the biggest objection to the Fast Zombie debate, that they are fictional characters and their capabilities are arbitrarily assigned. And while I mostly agree with the sentiment, I don't have strong reservations about fast zombies. It's a different flavor of monster mayhem than the Romero shambling zombie and I like both kinds. 28 Days Later is a very good Sci-Fi/Action flick, and the first ten minutes of the Dawn of the Dead remake are as entertaining as any 10 minutes in any zombie film (too bad the movie totally peters out). It should be pointed out that these two films are not the first to feature running zombies, the Return of the Living Dead from 1985 had fast ghouls and I'm sure there are more examples.
Actually, now that I'm at it there is one thing from Return of the Living Dead that bugs me way more than the fast zombie thing. I hate the whole Zombies prefer brains trope. First of all, I prefer that zombies are mindless ghouls intent on consuming the flesh of the living indiscriminately. Having a food preference makes the zombies seem too intentional. Second, I can actually believe a zombie can sprint a couple of steps before I'm willing to accept that they can talk. Moaning "Brrraaaiiiinnnnnnsssss" or anything else takes me out of the movie.
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"ZOMBIES DON'T RUN!
I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. The best phantasmagoria uses reality to render the inconceivable conceivable. The speedy zombie seems implausible to me, even within the fantastic realm it inhabits. A biological agent, I'll buy. Some sort of super-virus? Sure, why not. But death? Death is a disability, not a superpower. It's hard to run with a cold, let alone the most debilitating malady of them all.
- Simon Pegg waxing poetic on the rules of Zombie"
I wholeheartedly agree.
- spidey
It's hard to argue with a statement as well crafted as Simon Pegg's. Particularly when it acknowledges the biggest objection to the Fast Zombie debate, that they are fictional characters and their capabilities are arbitrarily assigned. And while I mostly agree with the sentiment, I don't have strong reservations about fast zombies. It's a different flavor of monster mayhem than the Romero shambling zombie and I like both kinds. 28 Days Later is a very good Sci-Fi/Action flick, and the first ten minutes of the Dawn of the Dead remake are as entertaining as any 10 minutes in any zombie film (too bad the movie totally peters out). It should be pointed out that these two films are not the first to feature running zombies, the Return of the Living Dead from 1985 had fast ghouls and I'm sure there are more examples.
Actually, now that I'm at it there is one thing from Return of the Living Dead that bugs me way more than the fast zombie thing. I hate the whole Zombies prefer brains trope. First of all, I prefer that zombies are mindless ghouls intent on consuming the flesh of the living indiscriminately. Having a food preference makes the zombies seem too intentional. Second, I can actually believe a zombie can sprint a couple of steps before I'm willing to accept that they can talk. Moaning "Brrraaaiiiinnnnnnsssss" or anything else takes me out of the movie.
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dollar_bin said:
Actually, now that I'm at it there is one thing from Return of the Living Dead that bugs me way more than the fast zombie thing. I hate the whole Zombies prefer brains trope. First of all, I prefer that zombies are mindless ghouls intent on consuming the flesh of the living indiscriminately. Having a food preference makes the zombies seem too intentional. Second, I can actually believe a zombie can sprint a couple of steps before I'm willing to accept that they can talk. Moaning "Brrraaaiiiinnnnnnsssss" or anything else takes me out of the movie.
I agree, and so does George Romero:
Actually, now that I'm at it there is one thing from Return of the Living Dead that bugs me way more than the fast zombie thing. I hate the whole Zombies prefer brains trope. First of all, I prefer that zombies are mindless ghouls intent on consuming the flesh of the living indiscriminately. Having a food preference makes the zombies seem too intentional. Second, I can actually believe a zombie can sprint a couple of steps before I'm willing to accept that they can talk. Moaning "Brrraaaiiiinnnnnnsssss" or anything else takes me out of the movie.
I agree, and so does George Romero:
99Problems saidlease to recommend some good zombie movies for a newbie...? Thanks!
Big tits Zombie
Blindness (This is not a zombie movie, there are no zombies, but it's TOTALLY a zombie movie in TONE. It is my favorite zombi-"like" movie ever. You're not fooling me Meirelles)
Blue sunshine
City of the living dead
Dawn of the dead (GOAT)
Other Romero must sees: Night of the Living Dead (OG), Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead (Cheesy, but DENNIS HOPPER!!), You should skip that Zack snyder POS, and watch the Crazies remake instead, Return of the living dead (hilarious)
Dr. Satan y la magia negra
Fido
I walked with a zombie
Lifeforce (vague space vampire zombies)
Mangue Negro
Night of the creeps
no profanar el sue??o de los muertos (aka Don't Open the Window aka The Living Dead aka Weekend with the Dead aka
Let Sleeping Corpses Lie)
The Serpent and the rainbow (voodoo)
Sexy nights of the living dead (yup its a porno)
Shaun of the dead (no brainer)
The grapes of death
Thriller (Most popular Zombie film of all time?)
Tokyo Zombie
Veerana
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Versus
White Zombie
Wild Zero (GAME CHANGER!!)
Fulci! (Zombi 2)
*yawn*
- spidey
lease to recommend some good zombie movies for a newbie...? Thanks!Big tits Zombie
Blindness (This is not a zombie movie, there are no zombies, but it's TOTALLY a zombie movie in TONE. It is my favorite zombi-"like" movie ever. You're not fooling me Meirelles)
Blue sunshine
City of the living dead
Dawn of the dead (GOAT)
Other Romero must sees: Night of the Living Dead (OG), Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead (Cheesy, but DENNIS HOPPER!!), You should skip that Zack snyder POS, and watch the Crazies remake instead, Return of the living dead (hilarious)
Dr. Satan y la magia negra
Fido
I walked with a zombie
Lifeforce (vague space vampire zombies)
Mangue Negro
Night of the creeps
no profanar el sue??o de los muertos (aka Don't Open the Window aka The Living Dead aka Weekend with the Dead aka
Let Sleeping Corpses Lie)
The Serpent and the rainbow (voodoo)
Sexy nights of the living dead (yup its a porno)
Shaun of the dead (no brainer)
The grapes of death
Thriller (Most popular Zombie film of all time?)
Tokyo Zombie
Veerana
]
Versus
White Zombie
Wild Zero (GAME CHANGER!!)
Fulci! (Zombi 2)
*yawn*
- spidey
SPlDEY said:Okem said:IMO most of the Japanses zombie movies pretty much suck. Versus is the only one really worth spending the time to watch.
Bam.
- diego
Wild Zero has about 20/30 mins of entertainment, the rest is a snooze. Like most Asian zombie movies, it promised much but failed to deliver. Tokyo Zombie is meant to be funny, but Japanese humour is just bizarre, so I got bored pretty quickly. Bio Zombie (1998), Junk (2000), Stacy (2001), ???Sars Wars??? (Thai 2004), The Girls Rebel Force of Competitive Swimmers (2007), ???Onechanbara??? (2008) were all pretty lame. Haven't seen Big Tits Zombie as I got tired of being let down by Asian zombie movies.
Bam.
- diego
Wild Zero has about 20/30 mins of entertainment, the rest is a snooze. Like most Asian zombie movies, it promised much but failed to deliver. Tokyo Zombie is meant to be funny, but Japanese humour is just bizarre, so I got bored pretty quickly. Bio Zombie (1998), Junk (2000), Stacy (2001), ???Sars Wars??? (Thai 2004), The Girls Rebel Force of Competitive Swimmers (2007), ???Onechanbara??? (2008) were all pretty lame. Haven't seen Big Tits Zombie as I got tired of being let down by Asian zombie movies.
Okem said:
Wild Zero has about 20/30 mins of entertainment, the rest is a snooze. Like most Asian zombie movies, it promised much but failed to deliver. Tokyo Zombie is meant to be funny, but Japanese humour is just bizarre, so I got bored pretty quickly. Bio Zombie (1998), Junk (2000), Stacy (2001), ???Sars Wars??? (Thai 2004), The Girls Rebel Force of Competitive Swimmers (2007), ???Onechanbara??? (2008) were all pretty lame. Haven't seen Big Tits Zombie as I got tired of being let down by Asian zombie movies.
BOOOOO
- spidey
Wild Zero has about 20/30 mins of entertainment, the rest is a snooze. Like most Asian zombie movies, it promised much but failed to deliver. Tokyo Zombie is meant to be funny, but Japanese humour is just bizarre, so I got bored pretty quickly. Bio Zombie (1998), Junk (2000), Stacy (2001), ???Sars Wars??? (Thai 2004), The Girls Rebel Force of Competitive Swimmers (2007), ???Onechanbara??? (2008) were all pretty lame. Haven't seen Big Tits Zombie as I got tired of being let down by Asian zombie movies.
BOOOOO
- spidey
SoulOnIce said:sorry, but this show kinda sucks. I've watched all 6 episodes, and I wanted to like it, but it's just not very good and seems to be getting worse with each episode. I liked the first couple well enough but it got more and more LOST-like with each episode and the finale in the CDC building was like one of those old episodes of Fantasy Island where they would try to get all serious/sci-fi and it would just be embarrassing. acting is weak, characters are dull and zombies are often scarce.
I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
I wouldn???t go as far to say that it sucks - but I agree with all of your points. I just finished the series on DVD last night and this is my rant
Firstly weak characters and bad acting don???t really bother me in zombie films. I'm there for the zombies, the gore and the comedy - and this is what the series really lacked - especially in the final 3 episodes.
There are so many scenes where they are in highly populated areas, or ???hot zones??? and the zombies are few and far between. If they are some of the "last people left" why aren't their hungry zombies at every corner? Why can they just hop skip and jump around Atlanta and abandoned military faculties willy nilly while remaining relatively unharmed.
The CDC episode was a total waste. It felt way, way too early to be going into the "this is the end of man kind" shit.
If a group as poorly equipped and as rag tag as the group we are following has survived the way they have thus far, there should be loads more humans out an about in various forms. - Lone-wolves, roaming gangs, scared kids, ex-military psychos, good guys etc. Run-ins with these kind of people would be much more entertaining than the love triangle/ego farce that is happening between the three main characters. Its not a drama ??? don???t make it one.
Hopefully they have learned their lessons and the second season delivers on the gore, the fear and the comedy.
I haven't given up on it completely, it held my interest but it really wasn't doing much for me at all. it seemed like they took what appeared to be a revolutionary concept for a TV series and turned it into a standard network TV drama.
I wouldn???t go as far to say that it sucks - but I agree with all of your points. I just finished the series on DVD last night and this is my rant
Firstly weak characters and bad acting don???t really bother me in zombie films. I'm there for the zombies, the gore and the comedy - and this is what the series really lacked - especially in the final 3 episodes.
There are so many scenes where they are in highly populated areas, or ???hot zones??? and the zombies are few and far between. If they are some of the "last people left" why aren't their hungry zombies at every corner? Why can they just hop skip and jump around Atlanta and abandoned military faculties willy nilly while remaining relatively unharmed.
The CDC episode was a total waste. It felt way, way too early to be going into the "this is the end of man kind" shit.
If a group as poorly equipped and as rag tag as the group we are following has survived the way they have thus far, there should be loads more humans out an about in various forms. - Lone-wolves, roaming gangs, scared kids, ex-military psychos, good guys etc. Run-ins with these kind of people would be much more entertaining than the love triangle/ego farce that is happening between the three main characters. Its not a drama ??? don???t make it one.
Hopefully they have learned their lessons and the second season delivers on the gore, the fear and the comedy.
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