Black Lives Matter

[ppadilha]

Soul Zilla said:


It's not racist to say skin color doesn't matter. It is racist to say that it does.







so science explains how one large group of people systematically oppressed another large group of people in endlessly fucked up ways over the course of several centuries, but let's just ignore the racism that resulted from that and say skin color doesn't matter.





I think I got it.

 

[bassie]

Out of curiosity - are people engaging this poster for sport or off a sliver of hope of getting it to agree with you?


(not counting LB who is providing picture boards for all the blah blah blah)

 

[fishmongerfunk]

i think it's sport, guy is a complete asshole and a moron to boot, even though he obviously has some sort of education. the phrase "educated fool" springs to mind. confirmed troll and fellow asshole Moelarryandjesus is even getting in on the action. fuck these awful people, then again there is so little action here these days...where is vintageinfants you need him?





Anyhow, what's good, Bassie?

 

[LazarusOblong]

crabmongerfunk said:i think it's sport, guy is a complete asshole and a moron to boot, even though he obviously has some sort of education. the phrase "educated fool" springs to mind. confirmed troll and fellow asshole Moelarryandjesus is even getting in on the action. fuck these awful people, then again there is so little action here these days...where is vintageinfants you need him?





Anyhow, what's good, Bassie?




Long time no shit, crappy. Have you finished "Goodnight, Moon" yet?

 

[LaserWolf]

I used to think LM&J had an original insult/boast style.


Dudes posts read like Donald Trump transcripts.

 

[LazarusOblong]

LaserWolf said:I used to think LM&J had an original insult/boast style.


Dudes posts read like Donald Trump transcripts.




Trump's spiel has been analyzed and found to be worded at a third grade level, so I'm wondering who is reading those transcripts to you.

 

[ketan]

Dude isn't ignorant - that would imply that more information would change his mind. He's just got a worldview/ideology that is, um, distinctive compared to many of us. Any more information you pour into him will likely be sorted into his worldview just fine, thanks (and unless you're a strong critical thinker, you're probably doing a bit that yourself on the issues of the day... it's a form of confirmation bias).

 

[batmon]

ketan saidude isn't ignorant - that would imply that more information would change his mind. He's just got a worldview/ideology that is, um, distinctive compared to many of us. Any more information you pour into him will likely be sorted into his worldview just fine, thanks (and unless you're a strong critical thinker, you're probably doing a bit that yourself on the issues of the day... it's a form of confirmation bias).










Big words dont mean shit.

 

[ketan]

batmon said:ketan saidude isn't ignorant - that would imply that more information would change his mind. He's just got a worldview/ideology that is, um, distinctive compared to many of us. Any more information you pour into him will likely be sorted into his worldview just fine, thanks (and unless you're a strong critical thinker, you're probably doing a bit that yourself on the issues of the day... it's a form of confirmation bias).










Big words dont mean shit.




i don't get it.





he's still dead wrong on the issue (imo) but just don't expect to convince him on that is all i'm saying.

 

[Gary]

Well I'm convinced. Black lives don't matter after all.





Can I say the n-word now?

 

[parallax]

Gary said:Well I'm convinced. Black lives don't matter after all.





Can I say the n-word now?




Not funny.

 

[Gary]

Yes it is.





Now you go.

 

[Soul Zilla]

crabmongerfunk said:i think it's sport, guy is a complete asshole and a moron to boot, even though he obviously has some sort of education. the phrase "educated fool" springs to mind. confirmed troll and fellow asshole Moelarryandjesus is even getting in on the action. fuck these awful people, then again there is so little action here these days...where is vintageinfants you need him?





Anyhow, what's good, Bassie?




Wow, I like you and your posts, what specifically do you hate about me?





I think your bandwagon on this. Unless you toe the line here, it seems my thoughts will be marginalized without thorough analysis then cast into a bin of "well he seems to have a point here or there but his thesis puts me off from the get go so down the drain" if that's how you feel then that's how you feel.





I will frame my criticism more carefully in the future. It bothers me that some old heads think I'm disrupting modern discourse.





Sorry crabmongerfunk that's not what I'm doing. Thanks for the knowledge you drop on records

 

[Soul Zilla]

ketan saidude isn't ignorant - that would imply that more information would change his mind. He's just got a worldview/ideology that is, um, distinctive compared to many of us. Any more information you pour into him will likely be sorted into his worldview just fine, thanks (and unless you're a strong critical thinker, you're probably doing a bit that yourself on the issues of the day... it's a form of confirmation bias).










The single best reply yet, yes I may be wrong, yes I have confirmation bias, yes I am human.





But no my worldview isn't solid, it can change. And has changed and will undoubtedly change in the future. As long as it morphs with the data.





The point is that data is hidden sometimes and othertimes distorted. And that the media has an agenda, that changes periodically and It's hard to decipher.





And that a skeptical voice needs to always be present to separate the wheat from the chaff

 

[Soul Zilla]

LaserWolf said:I used to think LM&J had an original insult/boast style.


Dudes posts read like Donald Trump transcripts.




I don't pretend to know what LM&J is about but to equate me with Trump is a continental stretch. I'm ashamed of Trump, he's the last person I'd vote for.





I was cordial to you, but now you're the asshole. I won't devolve into name calling, but the record will show your true self.

 

[Soul Zilla]

Also guys I want the truth, I seek the truth, yet I'm presented with conflicting stories from the media.





And the things you hear about all seem to follow the same line. I'm not a news media guru but I could definitely make a page to link up to the other news.





And I could make my own channel to bring news stories you don't hear because of the agenda. All links, and embedded video, that's all.





No bias just the facts. It will be exhausting because of the write up. So many cases, but eye-opening. Some one will sort the data for me?

 

[skel]

Soul Zilla said:LaserWolf said:I used to think LM&J had an original insult/boast style.


Dudes posts read like Donald Trump transcripts.




I don't pretend to know what LM&J is about but to equate me with Trump is a continental stretch. I'm ashamed of Trump, he's the last person I'd vote for.





I was cordial to you, but now you're the asshole. I won't devolve into name calling, but the record will show your true self.




Dude, read up on your read ups.


LMJ is an old handle of Laz.Oblong, so LW's flame be aimed there in the above quote.


If this in an example of your science/data technique, maybe it's time to re-examine your methods.

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

Soul Zilla said:Also guys I want the truth, I seek the truth, yet I'm presented with conflicting stories from the media.










http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/09/there-is-no-ferguson-effect/403132/

As my colleague Brentin Mock points out, to observe that homicides began increasing in St. Louis before the protests is not to make a subjective interpretation, but to offer a knowable and verifiable fact. If the “Ferguson Effect” is real, how can it be that it started before the Ferguson protests?





Neglecting this question is neither dispassionate nor high-minded. It is the sort of insidious “false equivalence” that so rightly irks my colleague James Fallows. “False equivalence” runs contrary to the mission to journalism—it obscures where journalists are charged with clarifying. A reasonable person could read the Times’ story and conclude that there is as much proof for the idea that protests against police brutality caused crime to rise, as there is against it. That is the path away from journalism and toward noncommittal stenography: Some people think climate change is real, some do not. Some people believe in UFOs, others doubt their existence. Some think brain cancer can be cured with roots and berries, but others say proof has yet to emerge.

 

[Soul Zilla]

JonnyPaycheck said:Soul Zilla said:Also guys I want the truth, I seek the truth, yet I'm presented with conflicting stories from the media.










http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/09/there-is-no-ferguson-effect/403132/

As my colleague Brentin Mock points out, to observe that homicides began increasing in St. Louis before the protests is not to make a subjective interpretation, but to offer a knowable and verifiable fact. If the “Ferguson Effect” is real, how can it be that it started before the Ferguson protests?





Neglecting this question is neither dispassionate nor high-minded. It is the sort of insidious “false equivalence” that so rightly irks my colleague James Fallows. “False equivalence” runs contrary to the mission to journalism—it obscures where journalists are charged with clarifying. A reasonable person could read the Times’ story and conclude that there is as much proof for the idea that protests against police brutality caused crime to rise, as there is against it. That is the path away from journalism and toward noncommittal stenography: Some people think climate change is real, some do not. Some people believe in UFOs, others doubt their existence. Some think brain cancer can be cured with roots and berries, but others say proof has yet to emerge.

Interesting, I love the Atlantic, quality journalism. I Will delve deeper. I'm not beyond reproach, please trip me up, if you do I'll come with a concession, if not I'll press my point further.





Right now I cannot give a sober reply. But the Atlantic has been solid. Would it be fucked up if I rebutted your article with an article from the same publication?

 

[Soul Zilla]

skel said:Soul Zilla said:LaserWolf said:I used to think LM&J had an original insult/boast style.


Dudes posts read like Donald Trump transcripts.




I don't pretend to know what LM&J is about but to equate me with Trump is a continental stretch. I'm ashamed of Trump, he's the last person I'd vote for.





I was cordial to you, but now you're the asshole. I won't devolve into name calling, but the record will show your true self.




Dude, read up on your read ups.


LMJ is an old handle of Laz.Oblong, so LW's flame be aimed there in the above quote.


If this in an example of your science/data technique, maybe it's time to re-examine your methods.




No sir it is not, but thanks for informing me.