Can anyone explain Nardwuar the Human Serviette?
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foe said:
CRABFUNK said:
How painful is this to watch?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNvk2MgiCc
until dave leaves it's really bad.
he's clearly a character. whatever reaction he gets to his character, he will push it more.
Happy ending? https://exclaim.ca/music/article/blurs_dave_rowntree_apologizes_for_2003_attack_against_nardwuar
Now a politician campaigning for London's Labour party, Rowntree has issued an apology for the Nardwuar attack some eight years later, blaming his cocaine addiction on the unwarranted bullying. Here's the full statement, taken from Rowntree's site:
There has been some speculation as to why I accepted a recent blog comment linking to a clip of me bullying the Canadian journalist Nardwuar in 2003.
The reason is, that I can't take the credit for the things I've done that I'm proud of, without taking the blame for the things that I'm ashamed of.
And this is definitely one of the things I'm ashamed of.
There's no excuse for my bullying, and the reason I did it is perhaps nearly as sordid.
As I've written in the past I became addicted to cocaine during the nineties. Now I've no idea if it has this effect on anyone else, but for me, the day after a cocaine binge I'd sometimes fly into a murderous rage, and take it out on whoever happened to be around. In this case, it happened to be the journalist.
To be clear, Nardwuar didn't do anything to provoke me. I sent an apology to him the next day, but I didn't hear anything back from him, so I assume he didn't accept it.
These days I keep a clip of the interview on my phone. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs, and if from time to time I wonder if I'm doing the right thing treading this (sometimes rather lonely) path I play it, and have the answer.
The reason is, that I can't take the credit for the things I've done that I'm proud of, without taking the blame for the things that I'm ashamed of.
And this is definitely one of the things I'm ashamed of.
There's no excuse for my bullying, and the reason I did it is perhaps nearly as sordid.
As I've written in the past I became addicted to cocaine during the nineties. Now I've no idea if it has this effect on anyone else, but for me, the day after a cocaine binge I'd sometimes fly into a murderous rage, and take it out on whoever happened to be around. In this case, it happened to be the journalist.
To be clear, Nardwuar didn't do anything to provoke me. I sent an apology to him the next day, but I didn't hear anything back from him, so I assume he didn't accept it.
These days I keep a clip of the interview on my phone. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs, and if from time to time I wonder if I'm doing the right thing treading this (sometimes rather lonely) path I play it, and have the answer.
Nardwuar responded to the apology on his Twitter page, where he wrote, "Thanks to Dave of Blur for this apology... I do appreciate it!"
ketan said:
foe said:
CRABFUNK said:
How painful is this to watch?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNvk2MgiCc
until dave leaves it's really bad.
he's clearly a character. whatever reaction he gets to his character, he will push it more.
Happy ending? https://exclaim.ca/music/article/blurs_dave_rowntree_apologizes_for_2003_attack_against_nardwuar
Now a politician campaigning for London's Labour party, Rowntree has issued an apology for the Nardwuar attack some eight years later, blaming his cocaine addiction on the unwarranted bullying. Here's the full statement, taken from Rowntree's site:
There has been some speculation as to why I accepted a recent blog comment linking to a clip of me bullying the Canadian journalist Nardwuar in 2003.
The reason is, that I can't take the credit for the things I've done that I'm proud of, without taking the blame for the things that I'm ashamed of.
And this is definitely one of the things I'm ashamed of.
There's no excuse for my bullying, and the reason I did it is perhaps nearly as sordid.
As I've written in the past I became addicted to cocaine during the nineties. Now I've no idea if it has this effect on anyone else, but for me, the day after a cocaine binge I'd sometimes fly into a murderous rage, and take it out on whoever happened to be around. In this case, it happened to be the journalist.
To be clear, Nardwuar didn't do anything to provoke me. I sent an apology to him the next day, but I didn't hear anything back from him, so I assume he didn't accept it.
These days I keep a clip of the interview on my phone. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs, and if from time to time I wonder if I'm doing the right thing treading this (sometimes rather lonely) path I play it, and have the answer.
The reason is, that I can't take the credit for the things I've done that I'm proud of, without taking the blame for the things that I'm ashamed of.
And this is definitely one of the things I'm ashamed of.
There's no excuse for my bullying, and the reason I did it is perhaps nearly as sordid.
As I've written in the past I became addicted to cocaine during the nineties. Now I've no idea if it has this effect on anyone else, but for me, the day after a cocaine binge I'd sometimes fly into a murderous rage, and take it out on whoever happened to be around. In this case, it happened to be the journalist.
To be clear, Nardwuar didn't do anything to provoke me. I sent an apology to him the next day, but I didn't hear anything back from him, so I assume he didn't accept it.
These days I keep a clip of the interview on my phone. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs, and if from time to time I wonder if I'm doing the right thing treading this (sometimes rather lonely) path I play it, and have the answer.
Nardwuar responded to the apology on his Twitter page, where he wrote, "Thanks to Dave of Blur for this apology... I do appreciate it!"Rowntree's a legend, I don't think he was being too serious. You want to see cringeworthy Nardwuar interviews watch all the ones with Lydia Lunch lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92qnnRlQ2w
Had to log back in for this. Nardwuar is great. Obviously it's a shtick. There is a youtube with someone interviewing him on the street and he's just talking normal. I'm sure he figured most interviewers are so stale and ask the same questions so he had to stand out. obviously the voice can be grating but it's still a good shtick.
It's hilarious when people like Lydia Lunch, Alice Cooper etc have such a bad reaction to him when they are all about shtick and challenging the norm etc etc. but when that's done to them they can't handle it. kind of exposes them a little IMO. The fact that people like Snoop and Ice T totally got him first interview him shows who the real OGs are in the music game. Some of the punkers just seems like snobs. Jello and Henry came around over time and have done a lot of interviews with him and are friendly with him now.
He asks great obscure questions and I feel like a lot of the time he's actually tracked down family members or friends of the interview subject as part of the research and that's where he gets some of these impossible to know questions, Just a guess...
K. Had to show the love especially after his stroke. He's on Twitch now doing more great interviews. Just had Chris Murdoch a couple days ago talking about afro-punk/canadian punk for an hour and it was great, plus since it's Twitch you can ask questions in the chat and he will ask them to the person he's interviewing. Great stuff.
It's hilarious when people like Lydia Lunch, Alice Cooper etc have such a bad reaction to him when they are all about shtick and challenging the norm etc etc. but when that's done to them they can't handle it. kind of exposes them a little IMO. The fact that people like Snoop and Ice T totally got him first interview him shows who the real OGs are in the music game. Some of the punkers just seems like snobs. Jello and Henry came around over time and have done a lot of interviews with him and are friendly with him now.
He asks great obscure questions and I feel like a lot of the time he's actually tracked down family members or friends of the interview subject as part of the research and that's where he gets some of these impossible to know questions, Just a guess...
K. Had to show the love especially after his stroke. He's on Twitch now doing more great interviews. Just had Chris Murdoch a couple days ago talking about afro-punk/canadian punk for an hour and it was great, plus since it's Twitch you can ask questions in the chat and he will ask them to the person he's interviewing. Great stuff.
ketan said:
MiceTea said:
plus since it's Twitch you can ask questions in the chat and he will ask them to the person he's interviewing. Great stuff.
He should get on Cameo and charge people to do a mini-interview for someone.
Or just do standard Cameo, imagine getting a video from your SO and it's Nardwaur
MiceTea said:
ketan said:
MiceTea said:
plus since it's Twitch you can ask questions in the chat and he will ask them to the person he's interviewing. Great stuff.
He should get on Cameo and charge people to do a mini-interview for someone.
Or just do standard Cameo, imagine getting a video from your SO and it's Nardwaur
Oh shit, unhinged abusive Nardwuar could be genuinely terrifying/hilarious.
i'm on some surprise shrooms and i feel this whole thread is on some talking artist too seriously shit. also i fucked up my headphones just trying to reach them. i'm slutch a slutch. can i just ask for an album of earl raps over alchemist beats i get my intricate raps over fly ass beats fix properly scratched? i like what earl has been dong before, but that would scratch a major itch. if he does like roc and misspells french sayings as his song titles i won't hate.
thats not a lie, roc got a nice thing going. i want to show my friend french saylavi,not because the beat is crazy banging, it is, but to see his reaction to his spelling. he will react more to the beat tho. i also need to show him bruiser, i'm the bigger fan of mac dre but i think he will go crazy over the sugafree flow references.you know i just put on i gota do it like im use to it. that homie on sugas right has the time of his life.
i dont know how to turn off cursive and i dont care, i'm soon done.
i was talking to some british friends and i was making a mark ass marcus joke, but they didn't get it at all, is it a texan thing:
https://youtu.be/FhPg8ZBgt1Y
man dirty money is my favorite ugk album and most people dont see it, they hating on it for being their party album, with no overall theme to their raps, but their flows just bangs.in interviews you see bun b talking about how he felt he had to improve his raps because pimp c was contributing so much. this album feels like pimp c c had to react to how good bun b was getting, wood wheel might be might be my favorite rap song ever. i grew up despising car culture, my brother was into our lame verison of it and i'm a city boy, but that song just tickles my brain correctly, i adore all the sounds. when i fell in love with rap, i didn't understand what tribe and especially wu tang said, i just loved the sound of what they said, pure music. when i found ugk i understood a lot more, but listen to those flows and that flute, if you don't feel that i don't feel you.
i spent like 2 hours writing this post and the shrooms are wearing off, but wood wheels is not. boom!
thats not a lie, roc got a nice thing going. i want to show my friend french saylavi,not because the beat is crazy banging, it is, but to see his reaction to his spelling. he will react more to the beat tho. i also need to show him bruiser, i'm the bigger fan of mac dre but i think he will go crazy over the sugafree flow references.you know i just put on i gota do it like im use to it. that homie on sugas right has the time of his life.
i dont know how to turn off cursive and i dont care, i'm soon done.
i was talking to some british friends and i was making a mark ass marcus joke, but they didn't get it at all, is it a texan thing:
https://youtu.be/FhPg8ZBgt1Y
man dirty money is my favorite ugk album and most people dont see it, they hating on it for being their party album, with no overall theme to their raps, but their flows just bangs.in interviews you see bun b talking about how he felt he had to improve his raps because pimp c was contributing so much. this album feels like pimp c c had to react to how good bun b was getting, wood wheel might be might be my favorite rap song ever. i grew up despising car culture, my brother was into our lame verison of it and i'm a city boy, but that song just tickles my brain correctly, i adore all the sounds. when i fell in love with rap, i didn't understand what tribe and especially wu tang said, i just loved the sound of what they said, pure music. when i found ugk i understood a lot more, but listen to those flows and that flute, if you don't feel that i don't feel you.
i spent like 2 hours writing this post and the shrooms are wearing off, but wood wheels is not. boom!
pimp c was the second artist death that hurt me, after dilla, because i was invested in their art and i still wanted to see where it would go. my dad died of cancer when i was 13 so i might sound cynical about it.
during this quarantine i got reminded that my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. i was browsing reddit and some pundit made some lame point about how this norwegian girl named nina would not like agree that polar bears dont kill or something. i don't know. but it triggered a memory of my mom telling me my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. at the time i remember feeling nonplussed, i was still dealing with my dads death and it just felt unreal. we're city kids, how can a polar bear kill you? my life was still my borough and it didn't feel good. norway was still on the way to getting rich and we were on the bottom.
anyway. i start searching for people who got killed by polar bears in svalbard and find out only six has died since 1971. In 1995 Nina Jeanette Olaussen got killed by a Polar bear. She was with a friend when it happen, her friend survived. several years later she wrote down what happened. i found what she wrote online.. tragic. i called my mom and asked her if that was my babysitter. it was. she was a great woman and a source of happines. it affected me more than i thought it would. for some reason i always thought her death was something i made up. i feel vindicated, but in a bad way.
today i told my flatmate i am concerned about his coke habit.
during this quarantine i got reminded that my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. i was browsing reddit and some pundit made some lame point about how this norwegian girl named nina would not like agree that polar bears dont kill or something. i don't know. but it triggered a memory of my mom telling me my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. at the time i remember feeling nonplussed, i was still dealing with my dads death and it just felt unreal. we're city kids, how can a polar bear kill you? my life was still my borough and it didn't feel good. norway was still on the way to getting rich and we were on the bottom.
anyway. i start searching for people who got killed by polar bears in svalbard and find out only six has died since 1971. In 1995 Nina Jeanette Olaussen got killed by a Polar bear. She was with a friend when it happen, her friend survived. several years later she wrote down what happened. i found what she wrote online.. tragic. i called my mom and asked her if that was my babysitter. it was. she was a great woman and a source of happines. it affected me more than i thought it would. for some reason i always thought her death was something i made up. i feel vindicated, but in a bad way.
today i told my flatmate i am concerned about his coke habit.
foe said:
pimp c was the second artist death that hurt me, after dilla, because i was invested in their art and i still wanted to see where it would go. my dad died of cancer when i was 13 so i might sound cynical about it.
during this quarantine i got reminded that my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. i was browsing reddit and some pundit made some lame point about how this norwegian girl named nina would not like agree that polar bears dont kill or something. i don't know. but it triggered a memory of my mom telling me my babysitter got killed by a polar bear. at the time i remember feeling nonplussed, i was still dealing with my dads death and it just felt unreal. we're city kids, how can a polar bear kill you? my life was still my borough and it didn't feel good. norway was still on the way to getting rich and we were on the bottom.
anyway. i start searching for people who got killed by polar bears in svalbard and find out only six has died since 1971. In 1995 Nina Jeanette Olaussen got killed by a Polar bear. She was with a friend when it happen, her friend survived. several years later she wrote down what happened. i found what she wrote online.. tragic. i called my mom and asked her if that was my babysitter. it was. she was a great woman and a source of happines. it affected me more than i thought it would. for some reason i always thought her death was something i made up. i feel vindicated, but in a bad way.
today i told my flatmate i am concerned about his coke habit.
Please do shrooms again and type more soon. That shit was genius.
I love that all the bruiser wolf, pimp C/UGK and suga free talk made it into the fucking nardwuar thread of all things. Make sure you got yor phone with you next time you go to the moon foe.
anyway do norwegians just go to svalbard to hang? isn't that really fucking remote? what city babysitter type is going to svalbard on a pleasure trip?
anyway do norwegians just go to svalbard to hang? isn't that really fucking remote? what city babysitter type is going to svalbard on a pleasure trip?
A friend of mine went to Svalbard for the Northern Lights. There are signs around warning you about Polar Bear activity and I believe rifles are compulsory for venturing outside in certain areas.
"Svalbard is the size of the whole of the U.K. And southern Irland and has a human population of 2000 and 4000+ polar bears.It's illegal to go past this sign (leaving the town of longyearbyen), without a firearm, Hence the gun. Not to be used to shoot the bear unless it's absolutely life threatening as they take a polar bears death as seriously as a murder.In any case they warned me that if I did shoot a polar bear, there is a massive chance I'd just make it more angry, and since they can run over 28mph and weight similar to a horse...."
I do hope the bear was not killed as a result. As they say, "That tiger didn't go crazy, it went tiger."
b/w
" I heard about this guy who broke into a lion's den at the zoo and got mauled and people were talking about how there should have been better defences put up to prevent people getting into the cage a friend of mine suggested setting up some kind of deterrent for example, putting some sort of fierce animal in the cage, which would attack anybody who climbed in."
Jimster said:I do hope the bear was not killed as a result. As they say, "That tiger didn't go crazy, it went tiger." it did get killed. i found a picture of it dead. i think it's standard procedure. hat sign under the polar bear sign says something like "counts for the whole of svalbard"so yeah, it's not normal to go to svalbard at all, it's very exotic, she's probably the only norwegian i've met. apparently it's very lucrative for icelandic fishers to go to svalbard or greenland to sell hash, those are the only other ones i've meet or talked to who's been there. she went there because one of her friends where doing research there, or something connected to the university. she went there with a friend and they woke up the day after they arrived and decided to take a walk, their resident friend had to work. they wanted to climb the nearest plateau. very norwegian. i've never even seen a polar bear, the closest i've been is riding on a fake polar bear that is the symbol of the northmost town in norway. my mom is from an island right outside of it. what i did see was orcas. they are awesome. the 24 hours sun in the in the summer felt weirder than the 24 hours without sun in the winter. the sun would just never go down, it just stopped and went up again. the winters still had daylight, it just came from under the horizon. they did get more than 2 meters of snow tho. we only got 2 meters of snow when the snowplows collected the snow on vacant spots. we had this king of the hill game on them. everyone tries to stay on top and everyone tries to stop everyone else from being on top. total chaos. surprisingly no damages.i am wrong about where bun b started threatening pimp c, it was riding dirty, and it's prolly their best album. the thing is i'm a rap rat and the production on dirty money was grating on my ears at first, but their flows just fucked my head in. "my Norse dick is like a horse dick" I'm definitely stealing that. if that only worked in spanish as well.those shrooms didn't fuck my stomach up like a lot of others did so i might get some more of it. then i might type some more.
I have seen polar bears, right here at the 'world famous San Diego Zoo' (as seen in such movies as 'anchorman', and that's probably all). Anyways, what I learned about Polar Bears is that they seem to enjoy the weather here, and that their fur isn't white. Each hair is actually clear, but it looks white for the same reason that clouds look white - something about the way the light is diffracted or refracted or something. So clouds are made of water droplets (also clear) and look white and polar bears are made of polar bear hair which is clear and they look white. Polar Bears may or may not turn pink at sunset. This i do not know.
Changing gears slightly, to the zebra. On the bus tour around the zoo they used to say "most people think that zebras are white with black stripes, but in fact they are black with white stripes". The first time I thought it was funny because zebras are the barcode of the animal world, they are just black and white stripes, one defines the other, end of story. They seem equally black and white to me*. By the second or third time I had had ENOUGH and I stopped them and said "WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY ARE EQUALLY BLACK AND WHITE. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME." And what it means is that if you shaved a zebra they would be black. Like their skin is black or something. I still call bullshit on the entire thing because white people can have black hair and black people can have white hair and nobody cares but if you had white and black striped hair does it really matter what color your skin is underneath? I wouldn't be like "actually i'm white with black stripes, not the other way around like my black friend here". I know the zoo people have a script but Jesus... surely the interesting fact here is that somebody shaved a zebra to see what was under all that fur.
Animal facts - I read in a book that "all fish eat other fish" which i'm not so sure about because once you get to the smallest fish, what are they eating? And also... is that what those fish flakes are made of that people use in aquariums?
Finally- there are only two mammals that can't swim. Giraffes and Apes. An elephant can swim but an Ape can't. The Giraffe thing makes sense because their necks are so long and rivers aren't that deep so they never had to learn. But the disturbing part is that we somehow came to know this as a fact. Think about how it came to be. Think about them throwing all those animals overboard and then they got to the giraffe and they are like "Ah, fuck mate, I think this one isn't coming up" (I'm positive they were British for some reason). But just because one giraffe can't swim doesn't mean they all can't, so they HAD to try it again. How guilty did they feel throwing the next one overboard after the first one sank? And then they were like "fuck this, let's move on to Apes". How do you even throw an Ape overboard?
They had some sort of tortoise and turtle expo at Balboa Park years ago so naturally I was all in (I was there with my kid anyways). I asked one of the ladies what the difference between a tortoise and turtle is and she said turtles can swim. So I said "if you teach a tortoise to swim does it become a turtle?" And let's be honest, that is a hilarious question, especially to normal people like us. This lady didn't even answer. She just looked away.
At the Long Beach aquarium the lady there said "we call them sea stars instead of star fish because they aren't actually fish" and I said "sea horses aren't horses so why don't you change their name?" which again, come on... that's hilarious but also a good point, right? But they don't like it. I say it every time i get a chance to now, which is basically the one time i year i get to go to Sea World for free.
*A joke i like to make about pandas and zebras is that when color movies were finally introduced people finally could see what animals really looked in all of their colorful glory, but then it came to pandas and zebras and people must have been like "aw, what? that's it?" I can't stress how funny this is to me and how un-funny this is to everybody else.
Changing gears slightly, to the zebra. On the bus tour around the zoo they used to say "most people think that zebras are white with black stripes, but in fact they are black with white stripes". The first time I thought it was funny because zebras are the barcode of the animal world, they are just black and white stripes, one defines the other, end of story. They seem equally black and white to me*. By the second or third time I had had ENOUGH and I stopped them and said "WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY ARE EQUALLY BLACK AND WHITE. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME." And what it means is that if you shaved a zebra they would be black. Like their skin is black or something. I still call bullshit on the entire thing because white people can have black hair and black people can have white hair and nobody cares but if you had white and black striped hair does it really matter what color your skin is underneath? I wouldn't be like "actually i'm white with black stripes, not the other way around like my black friend here". I know the zoo people have a script but Jesus... surely the interesting fact here is that somebody shaved a zebra to see what was under all that fur.
Animal facts - I read in a book that "all fish eat other fish" which i'm not so sure about because once you get to the smallest fish, what are they eating? And also... is that what those fish flakes are made of that people use in aquariums?
Finally- there are only two mammals that can't swim. Giraffes and Apes. An elephant can swim but an Ape can't. The Giraffe thing makes sense because their necks are so long and rivers aren't that deep so they never had to learn. But the disturbing part is that we somehow came to know this as a fact. Think about how it came to be. Think about them throwing all those animals overboard and then they got to the giraffe and they are like "Ah, fuck mate, I think this one isn't coming up" (I'm positive they were British for some reason). But just because one giraffe can't swim doesn't mean they all can't, so they HAD to try it again. How guilty did they feel throwing the next one overboard after the first one sank? And then they were like "fuck this, let's move on to Apes". How do you even throw an Ape overboard?
They had some sort of tortoise and turtle expo at Balboa Park years ago so naturally I was all in (I was there with my kid anyways). I asked one of the ladies what the difference between a tortoise and turtle is and she said turtles can swim. So I said "if you teach a tortoise to swim does it become a turtle?" And let's be honest, that is a hilarious question, especially to normal people like us. This lady didn't even answer. She just looked away.
At the Long Beach aquarium the lady there said "we call them sea stars instead of star fish because they aren't actually fish" and I said "sea horses aren't horses so why don't you change their name?" which again, come on... that's hilarious but also a good point, right? But they don't like it. I say it every time i get a chance to now, which is basically the one time i year i get to go to Sea World for free.
*A joke i like to make about pandas and zebras is that when color movies were finally introduced people finally could see what animals really looked in all of their colorful glory, but then it came to pandas and zebras and people must have been like "aw, what? that's it?" I can't stress how funny this is to me and how un-funny this is to everybody else.
