Cratediggers.com ????? WTF??
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Is there a real need for an eBay alternative? Absolutely.
BUT, there are guys out there who, unlike Mr. greenCR8s, actually know records but shy away from doing it because it would be a HUGE commitment and probably a total disaster. Like someone said, it's not just putting auction software on a website. Which is an understatement if ever there were one. You're likely to get something worse that the Goodwill.com auction site. Which is just sad.
If anyone is ever going to make something like this work they need to get some credible, successful dealers with name recognition behind them who believe in this enough to leave eBay and lose money in the beginning. This would be a tough act for anyone to pull off, but it's going to be totally impossible for someone who doesn't REALLY KNOW their shit. I hate to be mean but, seriously, get real. This guy is acting like their is just sooo much untapped potential in records that all he's gotta do is buy a web domain and make some snake oil pitch and it'll all be his for the taking.
BUT, there are guys out there who, unlike Mr. greenCR8s, actually know records but shy away from doing it because it would be a HUGE commitment and probably a total disaster. Like someone said, it's not just putting auction software on a website. Which is an understatement if ever there were one. You're likely to get something worse that the Goodwill.com auction site. Which is just sad.
If anyone is ever going to make something like this work they need to get some credible, successful dealers with name recognition behind them who believe in this enough to leave eBay and lose money in the beginning. This would be a tough act for anyone to pull off, but it's going to be totally impossible for someone who doesn't REALLY KNOW their shit. I hate to be mean but, seriously, get real. This guy is acting like their is just sooo much untapped potential in records that all he's gotta do is buy a web domain and make some snake oil pitch and it'll all be his for the taking.
Dude, the name not only limits your appeal--it alienates your core target group.
It's dated and wilde corny.
Yeah Ivan and I have talked about this a couple times.... It's not a small thing.
Forget having records, you need serious e-commerce experience to pull this off. Ebay is not some tiny start-up, it is a HUGE mega-corp with major capitalization and the best in the world behind their engineering and programming. You can't design an alternative with your homie that does web design in his spare time or basic html and a few banner ads or blog mentions. You need some real silicon valley expertise to make it happen, a huge advertising campaign and not to mention BIG TIME financing.
If I were to do something like this I would have to leverage my entire stock. How else can you convince dealers and buyers that it's for real? And even that wouldn't be enough - I'd need several other top end dealers who would be willing to make the same commitment.
All of which is to say, #1 - this is not a new idea, people have been trying to create an alternative to ebay and nothing yet has supplanted it, and #2 - despite your clear willingness to take risks and your energy and commitment, you need a lot more than a good idea and some drive to pull something like this off.
I'll be in the shop all weekend so if you want to come down we can chat in person.
Forget having records, you need serious e-commerce experience to pull this off. Ebay is not some tiny start-up, it is a HUGE mega-corp with major capitalization and the best in the world behind their engineering and programming. You can't design an alternative with your homie that does web design in his spare time or basic html and a few banner ads or blog mentions. You need some real silicon valley expertise to make it happen, a huge advertising campaign and not to mention BIG TIME financing.
If I were to do something like this I would have to leverage my entire stock. How else can you convince dealers and buyers that it's for real? And even that wouldn't be enough - I'd need several other top end dealers who would be willing to make the same commitment.
All of which is to say, #1 - this is not a new idea, people have been trying to create an alternative to ebay and nothing yet has supplanted it, and #2 - despite your clear willingness to take risks and your energy and commitment, you need a lot more than a good idea and some drive to pull something like this off.
I'll be in the shop all weekend so if you want to come down we can chat in person.
Like I said before - I appreciate and respect all your opinions. Your all spitting truth, and I respect it immensely. Know reason to feel bad about truth.
When I made the html site in the beginning - it all seemed so easy, and only expected faster growth with a more advanced site. Which has happened in a sense. Now it's just making the right formula.
I take this whole forum from page 1 as a great gift and learning lesson. The site will be coming down this weekend to go back under construction.
Version one didn't fly - we will see about 1.5. I'd like to keep all you involved while Ed is working on it - so that you can see it first hand.
Placebo might have been a joke - but in the billions of records that have been pressed - one probable does exist. How would you know?
When I made the html site in the beginning - it all seemed so easy, and only expected faster growth with a more advanced site. Which has happened in a sense. Now it's just making the right formula.
I take this whole forum from page 1 as a great gift and learning lesson. The site will be coming down this weekend to go back under construction.
Version one didn't fly - we will see about 1.5. I'd like to keep all you involved while Ed is working on it - so that you can see it first hand.
Placebo might have been a joke - but in the billions of records that have been pressed - one probable does exist. How would you know?
I'm going to be a complete dick, but you've gotta step up the grammar/spelling if you're serious about all of this. I know it's just a message board and you're posting on the fly, but:
if you've ever gotten a paypal or ebay spam/scam then you'd know that you sound like one. Little things like that would have me second guessing involvement and checking my little padlock security icon in the corner of safari.
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just pointing out some blunt realities.
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if you've ever gotten a paypal or ebay spam/scam then you'd know that you sound like one. Little things like that would have me second guessing involvement and checking my little padlock security icon in the corner of safari.
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just pointing out some blunt realities.
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if you've ever gotten a paypal or ebay spam/scam then you'd know that you sound like one. Little things like that would have me second guessing involvement and checking my little padlock security icon in the corner of safari.
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just pointing out some blunt realities.
I'm the worlds worst speller - and my grammar is a close second. What else would you like to know?
That's cool and all but I will be here working - I can chop it with you for a bit but I'm not trying to hold a conference on your website. No offense.
you may be right.
I have to admit that you're probably in over your head Brix. It'd be cool if you could prove us all wrong, but you've got an uphill battle ahead of you.
I would like to know how exactly you intend to recycle the vinyl
That seems to be the one question you can't answer.
Also I Read your TOS and I'm not sure what is considered standard or normal but this part of your TOS is a little creepy:
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Also I noticed that Gender is a required field to sign up.
