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Sucks to be them. Russia has not forgotten that many Ukranians welcomed the Nazis as liberators in WWII.
Russia needs the vital port of Sevastpol and so they took it. The US has no business meddling in that area and is only pissing off
the Russians. Obama, McCain, Kerry are IDIOTS! Fix our country first before worrying about others!
Russia needs the vital port of Sevastpol and so they took it. The US has no business meddling in that area and is only pissing off
the Russians. Obama, McCain, Kerry are IDIOTS! Fix our country first before worrying about others!
DocMcCoy said:Apparently, the British government calls this "talking softly and carrying a big stick". I'm inclined to call it "being terrified to take any sort of action because the financial services industry relies far too much on all that Russian money sloshing around in the City of London".
Ding ding ding...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/russia-vladimir-putin-the-west-104134_Page2.html#.UxWQBF5kJYJ
A little over-dramatic IMO, but worth the read. I sincerely doubt anything catastrophic is going to come from this. 700 Ukrainian soldiers defected today btw. I think the ultimate goal for Putin is Crimea and that's the extent of it. The rest is saber rattling.
Ding ding ding...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/russia-vladimir-putin-the-west-104134_Page2.html#.UxWQBF5kJYJ
A little over-dramatic IMO, but worth the read. I sincerely doubt anything catastrophic is going to come from this. 700 Ukrainian soldiers defected today btw. I think the ultimate goal for Putin is Crimea and that's the extent of it. The rest is saber rattling.
PatrickCrazy said
B_Cooper said
atrickCrazy said:Jonny_Paycheck saidatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuum
lol. give it a rest
what do you think the U.S. should dodon't think we should be getting involved at all
You're advocating the exact same thing Bon Vivant proposed.not at all. his post implied that we're some sort of gatekeeper that can either choose to either let this happen or not. we have 0 leverage in this situation and things will become exponentially worse the instant the US military gets involved in this situation.
I personally do not think we should get involved and also think that our presence can only make the situation worse. I also do not think that anyone should be encouraging "mistakes" that will more than likely cause innocent bystanders to get killed. but hey, that's just me.
You are both advocating non-intervention. Your reasoning may be different, but your proposed action is identical.
B_Cooper saidatrickCrazy said:Jonny_Paycheck saidatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuumlol. give it a rest
what do you think the U.S. should dodon't think we should be getting involved at all
You're advocating the exact same thing Bon Vivant proposed.not at all. his post implied that we're some sort of gatekeeper that can either choose to either let this happen or not. we have 0 leverage in this situation and things will become exponentially worse the instant the US military gets involved in this situation.
I personally do not think we should get involved and also think that our presence can only make the situation worse. I also do not think that anyone should be encouraging "mistakes" that will more than likely cause innocent bystanders to get killed. but hey, that's just me.
You are both advocating non-intervention. Your reasoning may be different, but your proposed action is identical.
PatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuum
lol. give it a rest
LOL! @ Hypothesis.
The market lost 11% in one day. The rouble is at it's lowest value in a long while, if not ever.
You're not too bright. Even if your hypothesis about my economic/finacial knowledge were true (here's a hint: It's not), it would still far exceed yours.
lol. give it a rest
LOL! @ Hypothesis.
The market lost 11% in one day. The rouble is at it's lowest value in a long while, if not ever.
You're not too bright. Even if your hypothesis about my economic/finacial knowledge were true (here's a hint: It's not), it would still far exceed yours.
DB_Cooper said:
You are both advocating non-intervention. Your reasoning may be different, but your proposed action is identical.
Patty's hard-on for me hasn't gone away, apparently.
It's hilarious.
You are both advocating non-intervention. Your reasoning may be different, but your proposed action is identical.
Patty's hard-on for me hasn't gone away, apparently.
It's hilarious.
Bon Vivant saidatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuum
lol. give it a rest
LOL! @ Hypothesis.
The market lost 11% in one day. The rouble is at it's lowest value in a long while, if not ever.
You're not too bright. Even if your hypothesis about my economic/finacial knowledge were true (here's a hint: It's not), it would still far exceed yours.this coming from the guy who didn't know the difference between a treasury note and bond? sure thing pal.
you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
atrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuumlol. give it a rest
LOL! @ Hypothesis.
The market lost 11% in one day. The rouble is at it's lowest value in a long while, if not ever.
You're not too bright. Even if your hypothesis about my economic/finacial knowledge were true (here's a hint: It's not), it would still far exceed yours.this coming from the guy who didn't know the difference between a treasury note and bond? sure thing pal.
you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
I didn't imply anything, Tattoo.
You live on Fantasy Island. The words I used were clear."We should let him" implies a lot. if your meaning wasn't what I previously posted then maybe you should write what you mean instead of posing as some political expert.
PatrickCrazy said:What a fucked up thing to wish upon innocent people.
Patty strikes again!
AMIRITE?
I didn't imply anything, Tattoo.
You live on Fantasy Island. The words I used were clear."We should let him" implies a lot. if your meaning wasn't what I previously posted then maybe you should write what you mean instead of posing as some political expert.
I did. You saw what you wanted to because you're a weird little dude.
PatrickCrazy said:
you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
11% drop in the Russian stock market in one day is firmly grounded in reality, Tattoo.
It happened yesterday.
Nice job derailing what could have been a decent thread, too.
you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
11% drop in the Russian stock market in one day is firmly grounded in reality, Tattoo.
It happened yesterday.
Nice job derailing what could have been a decent thread, too.
Bon Vivant saidatrickCrazy said:
you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
11% drop in the Russian stock market in one day is firmly grounded in reality, Tattoo.
It happened yesterday.
Nice job derailing what could have been a decent thread, too.
I don't think I ever disputed your copy and pasting skills. However, I did post this:
PatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuum
lol. give it a rest
in response to this:
Bon Vivant said:
Putin may not care, but the rest of the Russian oligarchs and investors do. Let's see if Putin cares if the the Russian market and rouble lose half their value.
Were you able to follow that?
atrickCrazy said:you're forecasting some sort of financial doom for Russia cos some "oligarchs" and investors are going to get fed up with putin. couldn't be further from the truth and has zero basis in reality. a majority of these "oligarchs" have a lot to gain from putin pushing forth with this.
11% drop in the Russian stock market in one day is firmly grounded in reality, Tattoo.
It happened yesterday.
Nice job derailing what could have been a decent thread, too.
I don't think I ever disputed your copy and pasting skills. However, I did post this:
PatrickCrazy said:the guy whose economic/financial knowledge consists of pasting from reuters articles is hypothesizing stock market crashes as if all of this exists in a vacuum
lol. give it a rest
in response to this:
Bon Vivant said:
Putin may not care, but the rest of the Russian oligarchs and investors do. Let's see if Putin cares if the the Russian market and rouble lose half their value.
Were you able to follow that?
Rockadelic saidhongone said:REMEMBER WHEN WE ALL LOL'D WHEN MITT ROMNEY SAID RUSSIA WAS AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ENEMY?
GLOBAL WARMING IS AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ENEMY!
y'all remember when Putin stated his clear preference for Obama over Mitt during the elections tho?
dude's no dummy.
hongone said:REMEMBER WHEN WE ALL LOL'D WHEN MITT ROMNEY SAID RUSSIA WAS AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ENEMY?GLOBAL WARMING IS AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ENEMY!
y'all remember when Putin stated his clear preference for Obama over Mitt during the elections tho?
dude's no dummy.
Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
DocMcCoy said:Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
b/w
Who needs freedom, our government will take care of all our needs.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
b/w
Who needs freedom, our government will take care of all our needs.
Rockadelic saidocMcCoy said:Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
he doesn't need to, NYC is attracting plenty of its own Russian money. luxury apartments being treated the same as British offshore accounts.
ocMcCoy said:Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on. In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
he doesn't need to, NYC is attracting plenty of its own Russian money. luxury apartments being treated the same as British offshore accounts.
Jonny_Paycheck said:Rockadelic saidocMcCoy said:Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on.
In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
he doesn't need to, NYC is attracting plenty of its own Russian money. luxury apartments being treated the same as British offshore accounts.yup yup yup yup
ocMcCoy said:Tired old cliches about empire notwithstanding (it takes one to know one), this is pretty much dead-on. In the days of the Cold War, Western leaders like Thatcher and Reagan were seen as dependable defenders of freedom in the eyes of those behind the Iron Curtain. Their modern equivalents barely pay lipservice to the notion.
Good thing Spike Lee doesn't live in London
he doesn't need to, NYC is attracting plenty of its own Russian money. luxury apartments being treated the same as British offshore accounts.yup yup yup yup
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