and Do The Right Thing haters need to escort themselves to the dungeon stat. that movie was masterful
Django Unchained (QTR)
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mrmatthew said:
Rumor has it he is going to do a retread of "Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill, Kill!"...which would be a shame.
it would surprise me if QT made as heavy-handed a move as that.
that's pretty much screaming "I AM ATTEMPTING TO RAISE PULP/EXPLOITATION MOVIES TO HIGH ART AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING; PLEASE WATCH!!!"
I would think he'd have the good sense to leave that one alone.
Rumor has it he is going to do a retread of "Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill, Kill!"...which would be a shame.
it would surprise me if QT made as heavy-handed a move as that.
that's pretty much screaming "I AM ATTEMPTING TO RAISE PULP/EXPLOITATION MOVIES TO HIGH ART AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING; PLEASE WATCH!!!"
I would think he'd have the good sense to leave that one alone.
One of the parts that really bothered me about the ending was the whole Django talks his way out of the shit. Being sent to the Mining Company w/ the Australians... Dunno why. But that seemed too easy/lazy and a bullshit way to do it.
As far as Do The Right Thing.
I still ride. In fact, one of the main theaters in my city is playing it in a week or two for $6 and I'm going to check it out again. Tho, they are also playing Infernal Affairs and The Departed back to back on the same day. Not sure if I can do a whole day of movies.
As far as Do The Right Thing.
I still ride. In fact, one of the main theaters in my city is playing it in a week or two for $6 and I'm going to check it out again. Tho, they are also playing Infernal Affairs and The Departed back to back on the same day. Not sure if I can do a whole day of movies.
DOR said:One of the parts that really bothered me about the ending was the whole Django talks his way out of the shit. Being sent to the Mining Company w/ the Australians... Dunno why. But that seemed too easy/lazy and a bullshit way to do it.
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Yeah that was a pretty half-assed way to resolve that issue.
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Yeah that was a pretty half-assed way to resolve that issue.
mrmatthew said:
Rumor has it he is going to do a retread of "Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill, Kill!"...which would be a shame.
i read an interview and he said Death Proof pretty much cured his itch to do that. I think he's doing Killer Crows next. It will be the third in the IB/DU trilogy. African-American soldiers awol in WWII. Rumor is Depp is interested and some of the Basterds will make cameos.
Rumor has it he is going to do a retread of "Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill, Kill!"...which would be a shame.
i read an interview and he said Death Proof pretty much cured his itch to do that. I think he's doing Killer Crows next. It will be the third in the IB/DU trilogy. African-American soldiers awol in WWII. Rumor is Depp is interested and some of the Basterds will make cameos.
Like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed the entire movie from beginning to end.
Specifically about the conclusion, Django tried to fight his way out the first time, lost, had his wife taken away, and then got sent to the mining company. I didn't completely buy the way he talked his way out of the mining company scenario, yet at the same time I thought it was plausible. Why would a slave have a wanted poster in his pocket and the three other slaves all said Django was not in bondage. Then he comes back and gets his revenge. Even before he got to Candyland they showed that Django was a dead eye shot and even had a flashback of it to remind the point with the audience. I liked Django telling the black folk to get away from all the white folk, shooting the sister, and Jackson's character meeting his end. This was a western afterall, were you so surprised that there was a big shoot as the finale???!?!?!? I didn't see that as a cop out at all. Were you shocked to see a big samurai fight at the end of Seven Samurai??? It's part of the genre.
Specifically about the conclusion, Django tried to fight his way out the first time, lost, had his wife taken away, and then got sent to the mining company. I didn't completely buy the way he talked his way out of the mining company scenario, yet at the same time I thought it was plausible. Why would a slave have a wanted poster in his pocket and the three other slaves all said Django was not in bondage. Then he comes back and gets his revenge. Even before he got to Candyland they showed that Django was a dead eye shot and even had a flashback of it to remind the point with the audience. I liked Django telling the black folk to get away from all the white folk, shooting the sister, and Jackson's character meeting his end. This was a western afterall, were you so surprised that there was a big shoot as the finale???!?!?!? I didn't see that as a cop out at all. Were you shocked to see a big samurai fight at the end of Seven Samurai??? It's part of the genre.
tripledouble said:
were there other leone or corbucci films that had such silly endings?
The end of Fistfull of Dollars has Eastwood wear a big metal plate underneath his poncho, get shot a bunch of times before he kills the bad guy and rides out of town.
For a Few Dollars More Eastwood and his partner shoot down the gang before there is a finale duel between Eastwood and the bad guy.
Point being, there's a big shoot out before some kind of final confrontation between the two biggies, which is again, a shooting.
were there other leone or corbucci films that had such silly endings?
The end of Fistfull of Dollars has Eastwood wear a big metal plate underneath his poncho, get shot a bunch of times before he kills the bad guy and rides out of town.
For a Few Dollars More Eastwood and his partner shoot down the gang before there is a finale duel between Eastwood and the bad guy.
Point being, there's a big shoot out before some kind of final confrontation between the two biggies, which is again, a shooting.
motown67 said:I didn't completely buy the way he talked his way out of the mining company scenario, yet at the same time I thought it was plausible. Why would a slave have a wanted poster in his pocket and the three other slaves all said Django was not in bondage.
Maybe my issue was that one minute Django is caught, hanging naked and then after then send him off he's still got the wanted poster? I was surprised they even gave him his clothes back, let alone let him keep the wanted poster... I'm shocked they didn't let him keep a gun or knife or something as well.
Don't get me wrong. I still thought it was a good movie. Just a bit longer than it had to be. Though I'm not sure if that is an issue for me really. Or just that he spent so much time building things up, and then kinda half assed it in the end that the length of the flick seemed longer than it should have felt to me.. There were parts of the end that I enjoyed. Just that most of it felt lacking...
Maybe my issue was that one minute Django is caught, hanging naked and then after then send him off he's still got the wanted poster? I was surprised they even gave him his clothes back, let alone let him keep the wanted poster... I'm shocked they didn't let him keep a gun or knife or something as well.
Don't get me wrong. I still thought it was a good movie. Just a bit longer than it had to be. Though I'm not sure if that is an issue for me really. Or just that he spent so much time building things up, and then kinda half assed it in the end that the length of the flick seemed longer than it should have felt to me.. There were parts of the end that I enjoyed. Just that most of it felt lacking...
When he got sent to the mining company it fucked with pacing of the movie. And the he moves into the obvious revenge finale.
The magic had disappeared somewhere in there. Whether its film length, superfluous writing or masterbatory editing, shit fell off.
The magic had disappeared somewhere in there. Whether its film length, superfluous writing or masterbatory editing, shit fell off.
motown67 said
.S. - Fistful of Dollars has a similar finale to Django in that Eastwood tries to confront the bad guys, but fails and almost dies the first time, only to make a comeback and kill all the bad guys the second time.
Isn't this the trajectory in pretty much every spaghetti western?
Brutal beatdown/left for dead, slow recuperation/revenge prep >>>>>> victorious showdown finale.
.S. - Fistful of Dollars has a similar finale to Django in that Eastwood tries to confront the bad guys, but fails and almost dies the first time, only to make a comeback and kill all the bad guys the second time.Isn't this the trajectory in pretty much every spaghetti western?
Brutal beatdown/left for dead, slow recuperation/revenge prep >>>>>> victorious showdown finale.
Horseleech said:motown67 said.S. - Fistful of Dollars has a similar finale to Django in that Eastwood tries to confront the bad guys, but fails and almost dies the first time, only to make a comeback and kill all the bad guys the second time.
Isn't this the trajectory in pretty much every spaghetti western?
Brutal beatdown/left for dead, slow recuperation/revenge prep >>>>>> victorious showdown finale.
That was my point. It's a western, it followed the genre.
.S. - Fistful of Dollars has a similar finale to Django in that Eastwood tries to confront the bad guys, but fails and almost dies the first time, only to make a comeback and kill all the bad guys the second time.Isn't this the trajectory in pretty much every spaghetti western?
Brutal beatdown/left for dead, slow recuperation/revenge prep >>>>>> victorious showdown finale.
That was my point. It's a western, it followed the genre.
for the people who think the soundtrack choices were bad....
watch butch cassidy & the sundance kid and report back to me.
watch butch cassidy & the sundance kid and report back to me.
QT talking to old dude about digital vs film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BON9Ksn1PqI
vs.
QT on BET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MI44SR6f-8
notice anything?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BON9Ksn1PqI
vs.
QT on BET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MI44SR6f-8
notice anything?
yeah i got no problem with the classic western shootout ending or failure/practice/vengeance trope that horseleech mentioned. just wasnt an ending that felt epic. good bad and the ugly shootout in the graveyard, or harmonica facing off with the bad dude in once upon a time...those were climactic and epic. fistfull and for a few dollars more definitely werent silly at the end. i agree with what batmon just wrote...the pacing went from carefully constructed into a muddled blur. maybe they blew their chance at an epic ending by killing calvin candie early on. but the move on the germans part was so retarded...oh im really shook up by the image in my head of dude getting ripped apart by dogs so i'll feel better by shooting this guy while his henchman has a gun to my potna's lovely wife. silly. i can forgive wanted posters in the pocket more than that poor writing.
the over trusting australians was a crap deus ex machina scene, but the one captive had such an intense face it almost made up for it. the dude who smiles as django rides away.
motown, all in all, i liked the movie. just really disappointed that the end wasnt tighter cause it could have been epic.
the over trusting australians was a crap deus ex machina scene, but the one captive had such an intense face it almost made up for it. the dude who smiles as django rides away.
motown, all in all, i liked the movie. just really disappointed that the end wasnt tighter cause it could have been epic.
Dick Gregory speaks his mind. The most interesting thing to me was the historical precedent of the Django character, Dangerfield Newby, one of John Brown's raiders. Haven't seen that connection mentioned anywhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS34OiuNmG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS34OiuNmG0
