HarveyCanal said:LaserWolf said:crabmongerfunk said:i also want to say this: racism is very real and very pernicious but when folks go off half cocked screaming racism when there is no evidence of same it undermines the real incidents and gives the racists the most comfort.
Exactly.
Only to racists does it "undermine the real incidents".
Normal people just say _________ went overboard, which has nothing to do with other, more substantial situations.
I'm with Harvey here. Leaving aside obvious issues of racial profiling - which, let's face it, no white person is ever likely to be affected by - who'd seriously use an incident like this as justification for disregarding complaints of racism elsewhere? It's classic dogwhistle shit, and it allows people, particularly those with pre-existing racist tendencies, to carry on making the same old generalisations about "the race card", as if the same rules apply to everyone - or perhaps more accurately, are applied the same way to everyone. We all know they're not, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.
It seems that black folks are expected to constantly police their behaviour and reactions in these situations and others like them, all the while worrying about whether or not it reflects badly upon every other black person everywhere else in the US and beyond, in hope of avoiding the very real possibility of getting killed by an antsy cop who feels "threatened" by this unarmed black person behaving aggressively towards them. "No evidence" of racism? I have to ask; how would you know? How would most of us on here know, really? If there's no explicit evidence of racism or racist behaviour in a particular situation - by which I mean the kind of language, symbols or gestures most white folks would recognise and regard as racist - does that mean racism can't then exist, or is being exaggerated or imagined by someone "go[ing] off half-cocked"?
I've been with my missus for fourteen years now. She has three brothers, all of whom I get on well with, and some of the conversations I've had around the dining table with the four of them and their ma have been illuminating to say the least. I can assure you that nothing's more effective in getting a white person to recalibrate their perception of racism than being close to black folks on an everyday level for a long period of time. How many of us ever have to consider whether or not simply having a strong opinion on something means we come across as "the angry white dude" at work, for example? Or if being perceived as "the angry white dude" might damage our career prospects, even if we were better at our job than just about all our colleagues? How many of us have ever felt the need to change the car we drove because all the shit we got from cops just for driving a nice car simply wasn't worth it?
Honestly, it makes me laugh when people talk about how some black folks like to go "looking" for racism where there supposedly isn't any. Trust me, you don't have to go looking for it. You only have to open your eyes and lift your head.
Proud Blacks folks (like me) hate this kind of shit. I'm the first to agree that racism should be implicated WHEN THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT IT HAS OCCURRED!!! This does not mean one should make such a claim for lewd and lascivious behavior IN A PUBLIC PLACE!!! :weaksauce: :shitty: :talib: The one question I have, though, is why wasn't the boyfriend implicated as well (or was he)? If there was differential treatment, then this smells funny (see aforementioned smell test). I thought both (presumed) hoes and johns get are cited (and arrested) for (presumed) solicitation.
atrickCrazy said:batmon said:Would "multiple" complaints been made, if it were a white couple?if they were fucking in broad daylight and told a few times that they were going to call the cops?
