Favorite Modern Soul LPs

Mtume - Juicy Fruit



S.O.S. Band - III



The Whispers - Imagination





Bernard Wright - Nard





Freeez - Southern Freeez
 
I dont know any old Black folk that use the terms Modern Soul ( R&B) or Boogie, but i can flirt w/ the distinctions.





When/How does Soul morph into Modern Soul? Why is 1980 the turnover year?





There were folks still makin modernized 70's joints in the early 80's.





Shit Teddy Pendergrass in the late 70's is makin Modern Soul, that sound way different(yet connected) than Al Green circa '73.





Either way its a fun game to catagorize.





I would place Rick James - Street Songs as a Funk album, yet Fire & Desire is Soul(Modern or not).
 
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Oh hell yes! Nice pick.
 
batmon said:When/How does Soul morph into Modern Soul? Why is 1980 the turnover year?




It isn't - they started using the term in the UK in the early 70s
 
When/How does Soul morph into Modern Soul? Why is 1980 the turnover year?




I know I'll get some disagreement here, but I always thought of the turnover year for "modern" soul as 1976.





That year, seemed like there was a clear, clean break with the older blues-influenced styles.





As late as 1975, somebody like Syl Johnson or Latimore could still get a hit with a downhome sound. But by '76 that was already on the way out. Even Al Green seemed to be fading around this time.





Once you get over disco, who were some of the newer names in the soul field between 1976-79? Evelyn "Champagne" King. Teddy Pendergrass. Stephanie Mills. The Solar Records sound. The emergence of Patti LaBelle as a solo artist. GQ. Raydio. Even some of the less-remembered acts like the Jones Girls or Linda Clifford. It's not that big of a jump between this era and the squiggly, synthy sounds of the early eighties, IMO.
 
willie_fugal said:pickwick33 said:willie_fugal said:
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chitlin' circuit modern?





(also see: J. Blackfoot's City Slicker album)




kinda, just barely a little bit







'cause that's how I know L.V., he was sorta in that Tyrone Davis/Z.Z. Hill soul-blues bag





my favorite song by him is "it's not my time," which is pretty aggressively southern and wouldn't fit in this thread.





but I think anybody into "trenchcoat soul" ala Luther V. or Freddie Jackson would probably like J. Blackfoot's "Taxi"
 
pickwick33 said:
When/How does Soul morph into Modern Soul? Why is 1980 the turnover year?




I know I'll get some disagreement here, but I always thought of the turnover year for "modern" soul as 1976.









Since i've noticed the term "modern soul" cropping up, i've associated it more with sounds than years - i'd class modern soul as soul with more lush prduction values than the 60s/early 70s stuff, so something like Leon Ware's Instant Love, which is 1976, would be kind of a benchmark modern tune for me.





I did a mix of what I class as boogie http://www.djwaxon.com/mixes/dj-wax-on-touching-the-80s/ (although the Kano joint is disco)





I guess for me the split in about 1979 onwards is where the straight, arppegiator-driven itali-disco type stuff emerges like Kano and Moroder stuff, and then on the other side, the more soulful, synth bass driven funky stuff is what i'd class as boogie.
 
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This one surely doen't belong to the list of my all-time favorites, but during the last few weeks, I've been listening to it a lot. A solid album produced by Lamont Dozier.



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Do people still ride for that Burton Inc LA Will Make You Pay $$$ album? There was a time that it was pure Strutnip, and based upon it's advocates I assumed it was Modern Soul.
 
HarveyCanal said:Still have no idea what "modern soul" is supposed to mean.





Same goes for "boogie".

I recently picked up an old issue of Wax Poetics (#28) that had an interview with Dam-Funk where he discusses 'boogie':





Would you describe the difference between boogie and future funk?


As far as boogie, early Slave and Cameo are examples of popular boogie. That was the second wave of funk music. James Brown and Sly Stone created the first generation. Boogie is the sound of slap bass, loud claps, melodic chords, and synthesizers. Boogie followed the last gasp of disco. Boogie includes releases on labels like Prelude, Sam Records, late West End Records, late Brunswick, and U.K. labels like Elite. Boogie-ologists will tell you it's mainly from the early '80s, and it encompasses Italo disco as well. I collect and spin boogie, but my original music is modern or future funk. I keep it earthy and use analog machines and special chords. I want my music to be warm and funky. So, it feels like new funk, With my music, I want the chords to affect you. Maybe there's a place you've never been to physically; it only exists in your dreams. I want my music to unlock that.