French Laundry experience, by request

probably a lot closer to real life than you think....

Work at a local free weekly such as the guardian. Befriend tastemakers in the industry (chefs, sommeliers, wine estate managers). Attract elements of controversy with scathing reviews of at least one institution. Move on to a bigger city, rinse, repeat, until you reach the pinnacle that is NYT.

Chan might have a better scoop on this since he is fronds w/ Eric Asimov.
 
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I've been fortunate enough to dine at the FL twice...though this was both before they raised prices on the prix frie menu so I don't know if I'd be able to afford a third trip back.

That said, they were two of the best meals I've ever had in my life in terms of a culinary experience/adventure. I mean, it's just FUN waiting to see what comes next and tasting it and as people have noted, the food there is just insanely well-prepared and what not.

The service was definitely face-melty though not nearly as intrusive as it may sound to have a 1 server to 1 diner ratio. That said, the head server did remark to me, after I complimented him on a suggestion he had made for my meal, "I enjoy helping people enjoy the better things in life." It wasn't said to be snobby but dude was laying it on a little thick.

I love that they bring you about 12 courses for dessert. Their macaroons are so good, they make it impossible for one to enjoy macaroons again anywhere else. Bastards.

I don't mean to shit on vegetarians but I just can't imagine going there and dropping $200+ for the vegetarian course.

By the way, someone's already nodded to this but if you want to understand why people get juiced to go there (besides looking at Aser's photos), read Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential" and/or the book "Soul of the Chef" both of which include chapters that make Thomas Keller sound like Jesus in the kitchen. "Soul of the Chef" especially has an extended history of the restaurant itself (my parents-in-law actually ate at the FL pre-Keller, back in the 1980s since it already had a certain cache, even then). I like the idea that all these big shot NY food critics ate at the FL and came away like it was a revelatory experience. I'm sure Ruth Reichl has written on the restaurant before.

Also, on food writing: I've always been a big fan of Jeffrey Steingarten's two books on food: "The Man Who Ate Everything" and "It Must Have Been Something I Ate." He's very funny but he also has a way of describing the eating experience that makes you want to jump on a plane and fly out to Baja for some carna asada tacos or Italy to try mantis shrimp. Damn, I'm getting hungry just reminiscing.

Lastly, I don't challenge the idea that fois gras isn't made under the nicest of circumstances but seriously, how many animals are really treated that humanely on their way from the pen to your plate? It just strikes me that protesting fois gras - but not, oh, a thousand other kinds of food products made from animals - seems to be missing the forest for a very small, elite tree.
 
Strutters are much more refined/sophisticated than I would have known! I wouldn't know what to do with that food, it looks like I shouldn't cut into it, perhaps a better move would be to cryogenically freeze the dish and sell it later for loot.
 
Strutters are much more refined/sophisticated than I would have known! I wouldn't know what to do with that food, it looks like I shouldn't cut into it, perhaps a better move would be to cryogenically freeze the dish and sell it later for loot.
Dude, you're not far off; dudes like keller, wylie dufresne, charlie trotter, and others are all about the cryovacing. Check out wd-50.com to see photos of some of wylie's work. He's a cool, young dude doing some VERY scientific food work; his joint is next on my NYC restaurant list.
 
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The argument can go both ways. On one hand, the idea of force feeding certainly sounds cruel. Anyone that has watched videos of this will attest to that. Our initial reactions to force feeding are generally equated to a human perspective. Which ducks/geese are not, considering they have no gag reflexes. Also, these farmers are exploiting a natural trait found in the animals, who normally expand their esophogus to store large items such as fish. They are known to bulk up in the fall to prepare for life in the harsh winter, often doubling their size.

Foie gras is too tasty for me to abstain from, but I wouldn't force my opinion on anybody else. Most important point is being aware of the facts from both sides of the coin.

Steingarten is quite cheeky, I've enjoyed everything of his I've read and his off the cuff remarks on Iron Chef America. Although my frond has said his antics wear thin over a day of incessant snapping, he witnessed various tirades of Steingarten's while attending a taping of said show. NAGL?

oh btw oliver, I think I saw you here....hah

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Thomas Keller is
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right now. But i think French, sushi and new american cuisines unfairly run these types of list.

I heard Babbo in NYC is
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, but italian gets no love.

I myself would love to eat at these spots, but don't have funds. My boss however is a baller that rolls to many of the places on the top 50 list.
 
I don't think one could ever accuse Babbo of "getting no love"...

I have dined there and wasn't sufficiently blown away to warant long-term pining for a return though... then again, I wasn't eating meat at the time. :/
 
I don't think one could ever accuse Babbo of "getting no love"...

I have dined there and wasn't sufficiently blown away to warant long-term pining for a return though... then again, I wasn't eating meat at the time. :/
Ate at Esca last week in the city, another Batali joint (though, not a flagship or anything). Anyway, good but not great, with one main course sent back. My lady was nervous about it, but as my friend said to her, "These guys are running the city, and making billions a year. Your piece of fish won't sink them." (Yes, billions is an exaggeration on his part, but it was a good line.)

Point is: Babbo and Batali get a lot of love and money. Though, Del Posto get no fourth star, dawg.
 
Strutters are much more refined/sophisticated than I would have known! I wouldn't know what to do with that food, it looks like I shouldn't cut into it, perhaps a better move would be to cryogenically freeze the dish and sell it later for loot.
sayin'! and ive dined on 5 continents even. wow. next level food knowledge being dropped. Anyway, i thought this thread was going to be about laundromats in Paris, which i actually have had some funny experiences at. d'oh!
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I don't think one could ever accuse Babbo of "getting no love"...

I have dined there and wasn't sufficiently blown away to warant long-term pining for a return though... then again, I wasn't eating meat at the time. :/
So you had a fish dish there?
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I don't think one could ever accuse Babbo of "getting no love"...

I have dined there and wasn't sufficiently blown away to warant long-term pining for a return though... then again, I wasn't eating meat at the time. :/
Ate at Esca last week in the city, another Batali joint (though, not a flagship or anything). Anyway, good but not great, with one main course sent back. My lady was nervous about it, but as my friend said to her, "These guys are running the city, and making billions a year. Your piece of fish won't sink them." (Yes, billions is an exaggeration on his part, but it was a good line.)

Point is: Babbo and Batali get a lot of love and money. Though, Del Posto get no fourth star, dawg.
They make about $6 million a year.

Did you have the crudo tasting?
 
Not trying to diss but damn, doesn't Bon Apetit have a discussion board...
I know about record snobbery but this stuff is bordering on legit snobbery...
I had no idea the Strut was so chock full the real life jetsetting elitists you see in Wallpaper.
Who wants to talk about their fav Denny's dish, the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity kills any engorged duck liver I never ate!
 
Not trying to diss but damn, doesn't Bon Apetit have a discussion board...
I know about record snobbery but this stuff is bordering on legit snobbery...
I had no idea the Strut was so chock full the real life jetsetting elitists you see in Wallpaper.
Who wants to talk about their fav Denny's dish, the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity kills any engorged duck liver I never ate!
Look mayne, if you have no appreciation for fine food and wine STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! I would not eat at Denny's if it was free. Start your own bad chain restaurant food thread. If people love fine food and wine they "legit snobs?" Stop hattin' son.

P.S. A number of people asked Aser to post about dinner at French Laundry. There are people on this board that DO care about things other than records.
 
Not trying to diss but damn, doesn't Bon Apetit have a discussion board...
I know about record snobbery but this stuff is bordering on legit snobbery...
I had no idea the Strut was so chock full the real life jetsetting elitists you see in Wallpaper.
Who wants to talk about their fav Denny's dish, the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity kills any engorged duck liver I never ate!
Look mayne, if you have no appreciation for fine food and wine STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! I would not eat at Denny's if it was free. Start your own bad chain restaurant food thread. If people love fine food and wine they "legit snobs?" Stop hattin' son.

P.S. A number of people asked Aser to post about dinner at French Laundry. There are people on this board that DO care about things other than records.
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I threw that hook out with a fat worm on it and WHAM! You took the bait!
Don't take your self so seriously...
How bout I pay you to eat a Grand Slam...
I know other things are discussed on this board, but It ain't called Caviar Strut now is it?
 
Not trying to diss but damn, doesn't Bon Apetit have a discussion board...
I know about record snobbery but this stuff is bordering on legit snobbery...
I had no idea the Strut was so chock full the real life jetsetting elitists you see in Wallpaper.
Who wants to talk about their fav Denny's dish, the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity kills any engorged duck liver I never ate!
Look mayne, if you have no appreciation for fine food and wine STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! I would not eat at Denny's if it was free. Start your own bad chain restaurant food thread. If people love fine food and wine they "legit snobs?" Stop hattin' son.

P.S. A number of people asked Aser to post about dinner at French Laundry. There are people on this board that DO care about things other than records.
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I threw that hook out with a fat worm on it and WHAM! You took the bait!
Don't take your self so seriously...
How bout I pay you to eat a Grand Slam...
I know other things are discussed on this board, but It ain't called Caviar Strut now is it?
Damn Chan Dog is heated!!! I can honestly say I don't anyone that is a food fanatic like Chan Dog. He GOES hard. I'm with you Christian, I could give a fizzle about a 500 dollar meal, I would hit Taco Time and go buy Stark Reality or some shit with that yaper.
 
I know other things are discussed on this board, but It ain't called Caviar Strut now is it?
it's not called "bait" strut either.

let it go......