Golden Era Hip Hop
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Anto99 said:I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.
dude... having reached the age of 36 you dont have anything more important to do than argue with strangers over what constitutes the golden age of hip hop? im not saying you should grow out of it or leave it behind but hip hop as a whole is for the most part a youth oriented thing and the hip hop of the day generally reflects the styles and trends that are popular among todays youth and theres nothing wrong with that. Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?
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aul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?
Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
B/w This thread reads like a Formspring account.
aul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
B/w This thread reads like a Formspring account.
paul_funyun said:dude... having reached the age of 36 you dont have anything more important to do than argue with strangers over what constitutes the golden age of hip hop? im not saying you should grow out of it or leave it behind but hip hop as a whole is for the most part a youth oriented thing and the hip hop of the day generally reflects the styles and trends that are popular among todays youth and theres nothing wrong with that. Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?
Hahha. Can't believe this is still going! Unreal. Who's arguing? Not me. Just up for a little back and forth with other record geeks. And a waste of time? Don't make me go search the forum and find more "important" matters that are currently being discussed. Like "Let's talk about Rare Earth" or " Rap you're liking" It's a music site! That's why people come here! And please. show me when and where I talked about seeking out 40-yr old rappers? I didn't. You did! This is now getting a bit bizarre. Let.It.Go.
Hahha. Can't believe this is still going! Unreal. Who's arguing? Not me. Just up for a little back and forth with other record geeks. And a waste of time? Don't make me go search the forum and find more "important" matters that are currently being discussed. Like "Let's talk about Rare Earth" or " Rap you're liking" It's a music site! That's why people come here! And please. show me when and where I talked about seeking out 40-yr old rappers? I didn't. You did! This is now getting a bit bizarre. Let.It.Go.
Junior said:skel saidaul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?
Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.
aul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.
magpaul said:Junior said:skel saidaul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?
Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.
I find listening to artists with Y[o]ung in their name helps keep me attuned to what people young enough to be my child might be checking out if they were half as hip as me. It helps if you approach music with a Logan's Run mindset.
aul_funyun said:Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?
::wink::
Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.
I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.
I find listening to artists with Y[o]ung in their name helps keep me attuned to what people young enough to be my child might be checking out if they were half as hip as me. It helps if you approach music with a Logan's Run mindset.
Junior said:20's the new 30.
Bless Anto99 for using The Game as a reference for modern rap though (and for producing a clueless :hayek: ) He should fit in nicely round these parts these days.
And kudos to you sir for using the word kudos. And for taking the time to source a reference I made oh, 10 posts ago. Fingers crossed that I "fit in" around here one of these days. Now back to spanking it to early 90s issues of The Source ( 5 mic Illmatic article)
Bless Anto99 for using The Game as a reference for modern rap though (and for producing a clueless :hayek: ) He should fit in nicely round these parts these days.
And kudos to you sir for using the word kudos. And for taking the time to source a reference I made oh, 10 posts ago. Fingers crossed that I "fit in" around here one of these days. Now back to spanking it to early 90s issues of The Source ( 5 mic Illmatic article)
Anto99 said:I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.
You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?
Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.
I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).
But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.
As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?
There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.
You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?
Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.
I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).
But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.
As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?
There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.
Mjukis said:Anto99 said:I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.
You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?
Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.
I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).
But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.
As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?
There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.
We're 100% on the same page I think. And I have tried to keep it classy. Nothing personal or confrontational on my end. And for the record, I am always on the look out for new shit. Though I am primarily into funk, soul, jazz etc, but I go back and forth sometimes.
Hell, I even dig some indy shit, rockabilly ect - the dude I work with is on that tip so I hear a lot of it. I will admit that even when looking for new shit, it does share the same aesthetic. Or similar I guess. But I'm not discounting new shit at all when I say that. Strictly what I'm feeling that's all.
You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?
Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.
I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).
But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.
As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?
There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.
We're 100% on the same page I think. And I have tried to keep it classy. Nothing personal or confrontational on my end. And for the record, I am always on the look out for new shit. Though I am primarily into funk, soul, jazz etc, but I go back and forth sometimes.
Hell, I even dig some indy shit, rockabilly ect - the dude I work with is on that tip so I hear a lot of it. I will admit that even when looking for new shit, it does share the same aesthetic. Or similar I guess. But I'm not discounting new shit at all when I say that. Strictly what I'm feeling that's all.
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