McCain: ”I hate the gooks.”
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I'm suprised no one has started an email smear campaign saying that Obama is an atheist. It would probably go down worse in this country than the rumours that he is a Muslim.
so then why did you say it?
I said it because some people seem to think that having an atheist leader will be inherently better.
so then why did you say it?
I said it because some people seem to think that having an atheist leader will be inherently better.
Yeah, I don't think it'd be inherently better. Would be an interesting contrast.
And personally, in the current state, I think a Muslim candidate would fare worse than an atheist.
No one gets paranoid about "radical atheism."
Not yet at least.
Yeah, it'd at least be an interesting contrast to Bush, although I think he really suckered the fundies policy-wise.
one thing i must admit in any of the threads i read in this forum. its in the vein of massive scepticism... because no matter what, i know that what i read on this site is nowhere near representative of the general population...this site has a demographic, and its evident in numerous album covers that we all like and love. i mean i'l read commentary on this site and think "wow, things are changing, there's hope" and then i'l read mainstream media the next day and will remember "oh ya, thats how most people feel" and be disappointed once again. not everyone thinks along the same wavelengths. and while you hate on the 4 or 5 people here that disagree with the general consensus of this site, that feeling is quite alive in many minds and that's a force you should respect, because it exists. i'm not saying be pessimistic, but be realistic. again, id rather subscribe to aethist robots...
You are right. The vids existed long before McCain's campaign started distributing them and sending them to the press and supportors. I didn't mean to suggest that they invented started... started what I'm not sure, people watching and talking about the videos? They were a big part. It's all a feedback loop. The vids were their, Obama was there, youtube was there, but when a campaign sends the press, and millions (does he have millions?) of supportors the vids and accusations, well their hands aint exactly clean.
I think this is the an eight year old story that is being played again. I do think that it is reflective of man who is from a generation when racial epitaphs were ok. I think a lot of people have nostalgia those times.
I think Mussolini was a Catholic. The Vatican strongly supported fascism back then.
I doubt that there has ever been a leader of a Western democracy who has self identified as an atheist. There will be a Black US President, and a woman, and a little person, long before there is an atheist.
I think Mussolini was a Catholic. The Vatican strongly supported fascism back then.
I doubt that there has ever been a leader of a Western democracy who has self identified as an atheist. There will be a Black US President, and a woman, and a little person, long before there is an atheist.
If obama's pastor gets a pass because someone called him a nigger then in light of mcCain's experiences he should be allowed to slur, abuse and even murder how many asians he pleases.
No, and it'll probably be another century before we get one.
When hell freezes over.
Oh wait...
did you read this, a little off tpic but intereting.
Gorbachev at the Tomb of St. Francis [Peter Robinson]
Whenever Ronald Reagan would mention his suspicion that Mikhail Gorbachev was a secret believer, everyone on the White House staff would scoff, thinking the president naive. When I had the opportunity to speak to Gorbachev a couple of years ago, however, I found myself concluding that Reagan had been onto something after all. Why, I asked, had Gorbachev refrained from putting down the revolution of 1989, just as Khrushchev had put down the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and Brezhnev had put down the Prague Spring of 1968? "Because of something I shared with Ronald Reagan," Gorbachev replied. "Christian morality."
Now the last leader of the Soviet Union has spent half an hour on his knees at the tomb of St. Francis. From the London Telegraph:
Mikhail Gorbachev...has acknowledged his Christian faith for the first time, paying a surprise visit to pray at the tomb of St Francis of Assisi.
Accompanied by his daughter Irina, Mr Gorbachev spent half an hour on his knees in silent prayer at the tomb.His arrival in Assisi was described as "spiritual perestroika" by La Stampa, the Italian newspaper.
"St Francis is, for me, the alter Christus, the other Christ," said Mr Gorbachev. "His story fascinates me and has played a fundamental role in my life," he added...."It was through St Francis that I arrived at the Church, so it was important that I came to visit his tomb," said Mr Gorbachev.
"We deem it the central revelation of Western experience," William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote in 1960, "that man cannot ineradicably stain himself, for the wells of regeneration are infinitely deep."
