McDuff or McGriff ?

PelvicDust said:I thought this was a beer thread.




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pickwick33 said: McDuff had weaker material...




... you can't dis the albums he cut for atlantic





...and Moon Rappin and Gin & Orange are great albums too
 
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Can't call it - they both have too many excellent cuts, none of which I can do without - its toe to toe





























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Strider79it said:pickwick33 said: McDuff had weaker material...




... you can't dis the albums he cut for atlantic





...and Moon Rappin and Gin & Orange are great albums too




Duff had his moments...I don't totally dislike the guy. "Can't Get Satisfied" (on Atlantic), "Hot Barbecue" (on Prestige), "Let My People Go" (on Cadet), the Blue Note version of "Theme From Electric Surfboard" and a few others are classics. But these are all songs I'm referring to, not albums, and for my money he came up short in that department. McGriff for sheer consistency.
 
Both indispensable, but I'd have to say that McDuff gets it for going all progressive late in the game. McGriff also did some good, funky stuff, but McDuff got further out.
 
funky16corners said:Both indispensable, but I'd have to say that McDuff gets it for going all progressive late in the game. McGriff also did some good, funky stuff, but McDuff got further out.




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funky16corners said:Both indispensable, but I'd have to say that McDuff gets it for going all progressive late in the game. McGriff also did some good, funky stuff, but McDuff got further out.




F-16, what albums did McDuff get "far out" on? The most recent thing I remember seeing on him is some cheesy-looking LP he did for Sugarhill - the rap label - in the eighties. Seems like the Jazz Record Mart in Chicago had a bunch of those piling up by the door for a dollar a head, ten-fifteen years ago.





(Good to have you back, BTW...)
 
It's a hard call for me. IMO, they both have had some phenomenal LP's and they both have had a few turds.
 
pickwick33 said:funky16corners said:Both indispensable, but I'd have to say that McDuff gets it for going all progressive late in the game. McGriff also did some good, funky stuff, but McDuff got further out.




F-16, what albums did McDuff get "far out" on? The most recent thing I remember seeing on him is some cheesy-looking LP he did for Sugarhill - the rap label - in the eighties. Seems like the Jazz Record Mart in Chicago had a bunch of those piling up by the door for a dollar a head, ten-fifteen years ago.





(Good to have you back, BTW...)




I was thinking of his late 60s/early 70s stuff on Cadet and Blue Note. McGriff stayed stylistically current but never sounded to me like he was really "feeling" it. Some of the old school jazzers seemed out of place even as they tried to be funky.


I'm not saying that McGriff's funky stuff was wack (it wasn't) but rather that McDuff seemed a more natural fit.





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