Record Grading WTF

sabadabada

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Grading Scale:
10: Mint??? Perfect record, clean gloss, no marks, beautiful in every way. Very few records will make mint.
9: Mint -??? Very clean, only a few light marks. A great record.
8: Condition between 7 and 9. but closer to 9
7: VG+??? Used, but not abused. Light scratches only. Should play, and look very nice with minimal surface noise.
6: VG??? Looks a bit used, light scratches, no gouges, still plays well, some surface noise.
5: VG-??? A bit rough but will play ok. Fills the collection.
4: G??? Plays very rough. Has multiple scratches. What a bargain!!
3-2-1: It only goes down from here.



My favorite is 8.
 
Years ago I bought a batch of records out of goldmine graded between NM and EX.


They were all trashed, including water damaged and torn sleeves.





Turns out their grading started at


N+ (New Plus)


From there:


N


N-


M+


M


M-


NM+


By the time you got to NM some scratches were acceptable.


...
 
I also avoid sellers that use excess + & -: VG++(+).





I have also seen sellers who have a 1-10 for each letter:


NM 7 Better than near mint 6 but not as good as near mint 8.
 
TheKindCromang said:Two of my friends who are buyers have a long standing argument whether EX is actually a grade or not






Nope
 
I recently sold a totally mint unplayed album to a guy in France (no shit sherlock) who tried to back it saying it was 'vg++++ only, this is not mint grade'. When i advised him 'vg++++' wasn't actually a grade and it was a brand new record, he advised by I was 'a thief but as he didn't want to go to the post office he'd keep it'. Just makes you want to give up.
 
Murdock said:TheKindCromang said:Two of my friends who are buyers have a long standing argument whether EX is actually a grade or not






Nope




Manship uses Ex and he authored the fucking bible.
 
high_c said:Murdock said:TheKindCromang said:Two of my friends who are buyers have a long standing argument whether EX is actually a grade or not






Nope




Manship uses Ex and he authored the fucking bible.



English Northern Soulman Revealed...
 
i definitely use EX as a grade. that's mostly because i basically never grade anything mint. if i look under a bright light and there are no visual flaws whatsoever thats an EX to me. if i opened a record myself and never played it, i mean to me that's mint. but i agree, people can't grade for shit.
 
Manship EX can mean anything from close to NM to cueburnt, warped & skated to fuck in my experiences buying records from him.
 
What you want is + what you don't is without +.





There is no such thing as a mint condition record because no record is perfect.





I grade primarily by ear to get the + or not, and by eye in the sunlight to determine the letter grade.





Funny thing is that I don't currently sell. But I do trade quantity because it is a faster way to send around what I call come-a-rounds. trade is better for me because I normally get 20% more than cash. 20% is 20%.





Have a good one.
 
high_c said:Murdock said:TheKindCromang said:Two of my friends who are buyers have a long standing argument whether EX is actually a grade or not






Nope




Manship uses Ex and he authored the fucking bible.




Please, the guy didn't invent record collecting.
 
NorthernDealer10 said:What you want is + what you don't is without +.





There is no such thing as a mint condition record because no record is perfect.





I grade primarily by ear to get the + or not, and by eye in the sunlight to determine the letter grade.





Funny thing is that I don't currently sell. But I do trade quantity because it is a faster way to send around what I call come-a-rounds. trade is better for me because I normally get 20% more than cash. 20% is 20%.





Have a good one.




Something about this post makes me smile.





20% is 20%.





Have a good one.




Right on.
 
NorthernDealer10 said:What you want is + what you don't is without +.





There is no such thing as a mint condition record because no record is perfect.





I grade primarily by ear to get the + or not, and by eye in the sunlight to determine the letter grade.





Funny thing is that I don't currently sell. But I do trade quantity because it is a faster way to send around what I call come-a-rounds. trade is better for me because I normally get 20% more than cash. 20% is 20%.





Have a good one.




Grading is always done visually under a bright light. Play grade is a whole different thing.