Sampler advice, SP 1200 related

[undertheradar]

Hey, I am running a super gritty old set up right now. I have a SP 1200 and a S900. When I picked up these machines, they were really cheap (I paid a total of $700 for both). I am now thinking of selling both to get a MPC 1000 or 2000. I love the sound of the machines but am constantly bummed about the time limitations. I also would like to streamline my set up a little. Bad move? What do you guys think?

 

[street_muzik]

Not sure if it's a bad move or not, but I would keep that shit. I guess if I had the means, I would be a drum machine collector. Of course if it's a matter of being productive making music, then fuggit, sell that shit and get something that works.

You could get a software sampler triggered with a midi mpc controller and keep the sp1200. Just a suggestion. I used to hate the idea of using software, but if you do it right, you can use the same methods you are used to. Just a couple of cents of mine.

 

[prof_rockwell]

Hey, I am running a super gritty old set up right now. I have a SP 1200 and a S900. When I picked up these machines, they were really cheap (I paid a total of $700 for both). I am now thinking of selling both to get a MPC 1000 or 2000. I love the sound of the machines but am constantly bummed about the time limitations. I also would like to streamline my set up a little.

Bad move? What do you guys think?

I can't say if it's a bad move or not, I think that depends on what your personal feelings towards the machines are.

But, I would recommend the MPC 1000 over the 2000, because you get all the features of the 2000, plus a USB out to do file dumps, built in audio and SPDIF outs, and a multi-card flash reader all built in for half the price.

 

[DJ_Enki]

I think you should give me your SP as a charitable donation. You can even get a tax writeoff, so everybody wins!

 

[4YearGraduate]

Buy a 3000. Don't f with the fake shit Akai made after they let go of Roger Linn.

 

[RiceAndKale]

Buy a 3000. Don't f with the fake shit Akai made after they let go of Roger Linn.

or a 60 with the 3000 upgrade.

 

[Sun_Fortune]

Buy a 3000. Don't f with the fake shit Akai made after they let go of Roger Linn.

or a 60 with the 3000 upgrade.
Huh?, plaese to explain. that sounds like a dashing look.

 

[speshboogie]

In other words, you can upgrade your MPC's (60/60ii) OS/software to that of the MPC 3000. Add that & the SCSI interface & you're set.

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/mpc60.shtml

 

[Imperial_Mao]

I would hold onto the sp1200 if i was you, had a lot of gear over the years and have never been as pleased with a piece of kit as I am with that.

Don't know about your location but they are about as common as hens teeth in the UK, anything else is pretty easy to replace.

 

[recordbinladen]

 

[Big_Stacks]

"You are now rockin' with the best..."

Peace,

Big Stacks from Kakalak

 

[Gamble]

Keep the SP. The sound is ridiculous. If you have a computer with a good soundcard, you could use that to dump your shit onto (freeing more sample time) and you could sequence on it. YOull lose a lil sound quality, but probabaly not to noticeably. Like thes said, avoid the 2000 , it has a dope interface but a thin sound. The 1000 looks cool to me becuase of its portability, but i dont have any real hands on exp. with it other then maybe 10 mins. at Namm.

YOull regret losing the sp. I dont use mine really any more because its slipped into dissrepair, but the way it makes drums sound (and rhodes and bass etc too) is next level.

 

[Phill_Most]

Like thes said, avoid the 2000 , it has a dope interface but a thin sound.

NO DOUBT. I am so sick of this MPC 2000 it ain't even funny. I've been trying to fool myself for years into thinking that this toy is okay... it is not. If I can't get a 3000 or 60 at a good price I'm just gonna blow the dust offa my daam s-950 in a minute.

 

[Young_Phonics]

Buy a 3000. Don't f with the fake shit Akai made after they let go of Roger Linn.

I went to a homie's house over the weekend and he had a 3000 (WHATTUP SPESHBOOGS) and man I've been thinking about ever since.

The filters and effects are built in!??!? Oh hell yes. That shit sons my crappy-ass 2000.

I think that's my next purchase (fingers crossed) after pressing some vinyl.

 

[MorseCode]

I luh my SP1200. My buddy Sean and I use that and dump sounds from it into the MPC 3000 to sequence.

 

[Delay]

i sold mine for $1200. i was just using it as an effect, but the s950 does the same thing and costs $200. well, almost the same.

 

[silvertone]

one word: emax 1 se/hd going price $200.
same samplerate and bitdepth as the sp, and the filters are variable cutoff with resonance (imagine the SP outputs 1/2 with an actual cutoff rate)

ps: you are welcome.

pps: anyone that thinks the 4000 doesn't snuff out all these machines is tripping. Having a Z-series 96k soundengine that you can record onto while playing back sequences at the same time is indeed the shit.
Don't get me wrong... all the Linn converters have some kind of real magic, but if you are just using them to dirty up your sound, there are a million other things that can do that just as well (shit man, for that matter check out Kontakt's bit cruncher at 22k and you will shit your pants at how SP it sounds) and in a much more musical way as you don't have the 2.5 second limit.

I dunno. I would say the biggest difference to the "feel" of beats made on drummachine samplers is the fact that the sequencer is tied directly to the sampler, instead of having the minute phaze cancellations that are sometimes inaudibly felt in beats made in the midi-syncd environment (read: any sampler that is triggered via midi)

Anyways, Im probably full of shit.

 

[speshboogie]

one word: emax 1 se/hd going price $200.
same samplerate and bitdepth as the sp, and the filters are variable cutoff with resonance (imagine the SP outputs 1/2 with an actual cutoff rate)

ps: you are welcome.

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Anyways, Im probably full of shit.

Naah you aint full of shit homie!
You told them bout the Emax!
Dope rack sampler.
Secret menus & shit hidden within the OS.
I bought mine for $95.00 !
Fuck, I don't even recall why I sold mine. Oh well.

Another runner up rack sampler, Prophet 2002.
Theres a bunch of other old school rack jammies which can be had for dirt cheap.
I started out with a Korg DSM-1 & Casio RZ-1.
Fuck I love these things.

Far as drum machines go though, I'm still a diehard 3000 dude.
Best machine EVAR in my opinion.
`Resampling` thru various other samplers pretty much gives any add'l grit needed.

Guess it all boils down to pretty much whatever you're comfy/happy with.
In the end, its how you use what you got.

what up King Most, your 2000 sounded fine here meng, that beat was dope.
I'ma hit you up some day to transfer some old 2000 shit I got laying around somehwere.

 

[DIGGADIGGA]

Like thes said, avoid the 2000 , it has a dope interface but a thin sound.

NO DOUBT. I am so sick of this MPC 2000 it ain't even funny. I've been trying to fool myself for years into thinking that this toy is okay... it is not. If I can't get a 3000 or 60 at a good price I'm just gonna blow the dust offa my daam s-950 in a minute.
YO PHIL,DOES THE 2000 CRASH ON YOU ALOT?OR ARE YOU JUST TIRED OF THE SOUND?

 

[Dubious]

Casio RZ-1.
Fuck I love these things.

YES

i dont use mine too often these days (sicne i ripped all the sounds) but this is one peace of gear that every time i turn it on i make a cool ass track out of it.. the sample is freakin hilarious... you want grit???? bangin beats for daaaaays.

you want a cheap poor mans sp1200 get an akai s20... mine sadly doesnt power up any more