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Californians moving here in droves started happening in the late 90's. They're still coming of course, but now people are moving here from every-fucking-where. Traffic is now out of control with every 9th car looking like they don't know where they're going with their out-of-state plates. My commute time has literally doubled from a half an hour to an hour within the last 4 years. And don't even get me started on the culture here being destroyed by such an influx of mainstream American mediocrity.
I moved to Texas in the last wave of influx in the late 70's early 80's.......in the Dallas/Fort Worth area more than half of the residents are transplants from other states. We have no state tax, very few unions(Right to work state) and low cost of living. We have more undocumented immigrants than any other state and have 3 of the top growing cities in the U.S.
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
DB_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
Rockadelic said:I moved to Texas in the last wave of influx in the late 70's early 80's.......in the Dallas/Fort Worth area more than half of the residents are transplants from other states. We have no state tax, very few unions(Right to work state) and low cost of living. We have more undocumented immigrants than any other state and have 3 of the top growing cities in the U.S.
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
Oil
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
Oil
Rockadelic said
B_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
B_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
DB_Cooper said:Rockadelic saidB_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
Is this a guess or a fact?
In the 80's MANY large corporations from the Northeast either moved their corporate headquarters down here (Exxon, American Airlines, JC Penny, etc.) or built facilities down here and brought many of their employees with them.
In recent years the same thing is happening with California companies (Raytheon, Occidental Petroleum, Visa, Apple, etc.)
The main reason is that Texas is a lot more attractive to these large companies than specifically the Northeast or West Coast.
Harvey is not exaggerating when he says Austin is becoming Cali East and the influx right now from California dwarfs all other states in both numbers and ratio.
It won't be long now before some dude from the Northeast comes in to this thread and touts the greatness that is Texas.
B_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
Is this a guess or a fact?
In the 80's MANY large corporations from the Northeast either moved their corporate headquarters down here (Exxon, American Airlines, JC Penny, etc.) or built facilities down here and brought many of their employees with them.
In recent years the same thing is happening with California companies (Raytheon, Occidental Petroleum, Visa, Apple, etc.)
The main reason is that Texas is a lot more attractive to these large companies than specifically the Northeast or West Coast.
Harvey is not exaggerating when he says Austin is becoming Cali East and the influx right now from California dwarfs all other states in both numbers and ratio.
It won't be long now before some dude from the Northeast comes in to this thread and touts the greatness that is Texas.
parallax said:Rockadelic said:I moved to Texas in the last wave of influx in the late 70's early 80's.......in the Dallas/Fort Worth area more than half of the residents are transplants from other states. We have no state tax, very few unions(Right to work state) and low cost of living. We have more undocumented immigrants than any other state and have 3 of the top growing cities in the U.S.
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
Oil
A big part but not exclusively by any means.
The irony of the negative stereotype of Texas and Texans is that our population has doubled since 1980 and the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
Oil
A big part but not exclusively by any means.
Rockadelic saidB_Cooper said:Rockadelic saidB_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
Is this a guess or a fact?
A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.
B_Cooper said:Rockadelic saidB_Cooper said:Rockadelic said: the great majority of that growth has come from the Northeast and West Coast.This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
Is this a guess or a fact?
A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.
Rockadelic said
This is a bit misleading, though, as the great majority of the American population lives in the Northeast and West Coast.
What's misleading about it?
Those people from those heavily populated areas are not moving to other states at the same rate.
I don't dispute that. I just mean that there isn't a greater rate of people moving to Texas from the Northeast compared to the Midwest when adjusted for relative population. In other words, if say, 1 in 100 people in the Northeast moved to Texas, that rate would be about the same as from Indiana, or Wyoming.
Is this a guess or a fact?
A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.
Agreed....but they have not moved here at an equal rate.
That's why before the Texas Rangers started playing well a Ranger fan would be in the great minority when the Red Sox or Yankees vistied
DB_Cooper said:A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.
New York was once the most populous state in the country and is now the 4th, so it seems like some kind of population shift is in effect.
New York was once the most populous state in the country and is now the 4th, so it seems like some kind of population shift is in effect.
Horseleech saidB_Cooper said:A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.
New York was once the most populous state in the country and is now the 4th, so it seems like some kind of population shift is in effect.
For sure.
Historically the South was a place to leave. With the advent of air conditioning that has changed.
Texas is #2 and Florida #4 in population now.
What is interesting is that no state is losing significant population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
B_Cooper said:A guess. My main point is that, due to the large population center in the Northeast and West Coast, if people were moving fom all areas of the country at an equal rate, the great majority of the migrants would be from the Northeast and West Coast.New York was once the most populous state in the country and is now the 4th, so it seems like some kind of population shift is in effect.
For sure.
Historically the South was a place to leave. With the advent of air conditioning that has changed.
Texas is #2 and Florida #4 in population now.
What is interesting is that no state is losing significant population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
HarveyCanal said:Californians moving here in droves started happening in the late 90's. They're still coming of course, but now people are moving here from every-fucking-where. Traffic is now out of control with every 9th car looking like they don't know where they're going with their out-of-state plates. My commute time has literally doubled from a half an hour to an hour within the last 4 years. And don't even get me started on the culture here being destroyed by such an influx of mainstream American mediocrity.
Common quote around the Bay Area (especially around SXSW time): "Man, fuck the Bay. I'm sick of it. I wanna move to Austin!"
So they move to Austin and proceed to import the worst aspects of the Bay Area and beyond. I'm sure you're loving that dynamic.
Common quote around the Bay Area (especially around SXSW time): "Man, fuck the Bay. I'm sick of it. I wanna move to Austin!"
So they move to Austin and proceed to import the worst aspects of the Bay Area and beyond. I'm sure you're loving that dynamic.
I'm gonna be the northeast guy..... I moved to Austin pretty recently from Portland Maine with my wife. I've lived in Maine all my life. I decided to move down here because I FUCKING HATE SNOW!...hahaha also my wife's family and some of mine live down here. It's a good change of pace to try something new. I can see that the city's road system was not designed for this amount of traffic. I went from walking everywhere in Portland to now driving everywhere and sitting in traffic for hours . While I like Austin I don't think of it the same way as many people who transplant themselves here from another part of the country. I didn't plan on moving here because of the music scene as a lot of people do (I think I've been to 2 shows) I don't really hit the bars much (I prefer walking to bars not driving or public transportation)I'm not the artsy type looking for a chill new coffee shop to hang with all my hip friends (if i wanted to do that I could've stayed in Portland) I just needed a drastic change in my life and it just so happened I chose Austin (my other choice was upstate New York, but like I said snow sucks) But there are great opportunities for good careers down here, not so much in Maine. I feel like I made a great choice coming down here, i'd rather be down here making enough money to support my family then trying to find good work in a bad job market.
Well shit.... thats my spiel.. What do I know though... I'm just a goddam yankee!
Well shit.... thats my spiel.. What do I know though... I'm just a goddam yankee!
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