That's that shit I don' t like

[staxwax]

batmon said:staxwax said:Yeah i thought Warning was the shit




Compton's Most Wanted used Walk On By in '92.










yep. CMW was a bit of a second tier west coast group to me at the time but yeah they were first. That whole first Biggie album was in a league of its own from the get go though. Dreams also had an overused sample before the album dropped but Biggie got away with it. Easy mo bee and biggie should have been locked in a studio together they would have produced so many classics. Second biggie was a huge let down to me - to this day i dont fuck with hardly any of the post ready to die biggie stuff. kick in the door and hypnotize arent half bad but not on that level.

 

[batmon]

staxwax said:batmon said:staxwax said:Yeah i thought Warning was the shit




Compton's Most Wanted used Walk On By in '92.










yep. CMW was a bit of a second tier west coast group to me at the time but yeah they were first. That whole first Biggie album was in a league of its own from the get go though. Dreams also had an overused sample before the album dropped but Biggie got away with it. Easy mo bee and biggie should have been locked in a studio together they would have produced so many classics. Second biggie was a huge let down to me - to this day i dont fuck with hardly any of the post ready to die biggie stuff. kick in the door and hypnotize arent half bad but not on that level.




That was CMW's 3rd album by then. Warning was on Biggie's first, Why does he get a pass in '94?

 

[staxwax]

HarveyCanal said:The American South brought us jazz, rock-n-roll, and funk, but yeah, somehow when it comes to rap, it's only about bad taste. How dare UGK loop up some Curtis Mayfield and the Isley Brothers and rap in their own accents?





Obviously, this is a post about you and not the actual music itself.







naw I was joking. southern rap is just something I could never really get with on the whole. felt like they took those das efx crucial conflict gimmicks i never liked to begin with to another dimension. I remember bone thugs was a joke to me when they first came out. That whole style had me rolling. Its a thuggish ruggish bone still brings a smile to my face for that reason. bbq, jazz, funk, lemonade and porches, however, i fully support. And ive always been a big geto boys and (early) scarface fan.

 

[HarveyCanal]

I love it when they call me Big Bad Taste...

 

[staxwax]

batmon said:staxwax said:batmon said:staxwax said:Yeah i thought Warning was the shit




Compton's Most Wanted used Walk On By in '92.










yep. CMW was a bit of a second tier west coast group to me at the time but yeah they were first. That whole first Biggie album was in a league of its own from the get go though. Dreams also had an overused sample before the album dropped but Biggie got away with it. Easy mo bee and biggie should have been locked in a studio together they would have produced so many classics. Second biggie was a huge let down to me - to this day i dont fuck with hardly any of the post ready to die biggie stuff. kick in the door and hypnotize arent half bad but not on that level.




That was CMW's 3rd album by then. Warning was on Biggie's first, Why does he get a pass in '94?







I massively preferred Biggie to MC eiht. And Ready To Die was so big and cinematic sonically, nothing CMW put out could really fuck with that. Some revisitations just work i suppose. I liked the whole petestrumentlas project too even if they were mostly over-familiar samples, including walk on by.

 

[batmon]

staxwax said:I massively preferred Biggie to MC eiht. And Ready To Die was so big and cinematic sonically, nothing CMW put out could really fuck with that. Some revisitations just work i suppose. I liked the whole petestrumentlas project too even if they were mostly over-familiar samples, including walk on by.




Ready To Die got its cinematic style from the West Coast/Chronic/& them.


But u on some NY/EC bias bullshit. "Purist" when your wanna be.

 

[staxwax]

HarveyCanal said:I love it when they call me Big Bad Taste...










not trying to be the poster boy for biggie smalls fandom by any stretch of the imagination. And big poppa was one of the corniest tunes on ready to die imo. UGK and CMW may have gotten there first, but they werent seeing BIG as an mc or in terms of production quality so that kind of takes the tired ass samples argument out of the loop doesnt it? Puffy was behind most of the sample selections on ready to die anyway if im correct.





Alkoholiks only when im drunk was dope as hell to me within the context of the whole album, west coast drinking rap riding a 'classic' loop, they got away with it even though no one was giving awards for originality of sample choice on that tune. Or saying they outdid epmd.


jayz and foxy corny as fuck and unoriginal - and very very late to the 7 minutes party.

 

[staxwax]

batmon said:staxwax said:I massively preferred Biggie to MC eiht. And Ready To Die was so big and cinematic sonically, nothing CMW put out could really fuck with that. Some revisitations just work i suppose. I liked the whole petestrumentlas project too even if they were mostly over-familiar samples, including walk on by.




Ready To Die got its cinematic style from the West Coast/Chronic/& them.


But u on some NY/EC bias bullshit. "Purist" when your wanna be.




Nah man, west coast rap, chronic, nwa, ice t, king t, above the law, the doc, boo yaa tribe i loved all that stuff but none of that was on my mind really when i first copped ready to die, although you're right I suppose, that record owes a lot to that cinematic style..


I wouldnt even put ready to die over any of those records. anyway you brought up warning, all im saying was I prefer that particular tune to the hood took me under even though they use the same source.





I still hate on tired ass samples generally and if you want to put ready to die in the 'played out because it uses a bunch of tired ass samples' category, be my guest. Thats not how I took that record in at all. And once again, i'm not waving the flag for biggie as the god of east coast rap at all.

 

[vintageinfants]

you sound euroman

 

[batmon]

staxwax said:batmon said:staxwax said:I massively preferred Biggie to MC eiht. And Ready To Die was so big and cinematic sonically, nothing CMW put out could really fuck with that. Some revisitations just work i suppose. I liked the whole petestrumentlas project too even if they were mostly over-familiar samples, including walk on by.




Ready To Die got its cinematic style from the West Coast/Chronic/& them.


But u on some NY/EC bias bullshit. "Purist" when your wanna be.




Nah man, west coast rap, chronic, nwa, ice t, king t, above the law, the doc, boo yaa tribe i loved all that stuff but none of that was on my mind really when i first copped ready to die, although you're right I suppose, that record owes a lot to that cinematic style..


I wouldnt even put ready to die over any of those records. anyway you brought up warning, all im saying was I prefer that particular tune to the hood took me under even though they use the same source.





I still hate on tired ass samples generally and if you want to put ready to die in the 'played out because it uses a bunch of tired ass samples' category, be my guest. Thats not how I took that record in at all. And once again, i'm not waving the flag for biggie as the god of east coast rap at all.

[em]Post 89 Straight up seven minutes of funk loops do not get a pass.[/em]

So what about folks that dont know the previous 7 mins funk loop until Jay-Z/Foxy?





Do they get a pass if they prefer that version(or take Jay is a better MC) over EpMD & Tha Liks?

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

...

 

[fishmongerfunk]

 

[shawnald_reagan]

Strange topic for a thread. Do you really want to be convinced of the merits of all the particular artists you don't like or is this just an exercise for you to affirm your strongly held opinions on rap minutiea?


I'd rather try to sway your opinions on vegetables as you probably don't really GET the ill nuances of broccoli. You like brussel sprouts dawg?

 

[ppadilha]

shawnald_reagan said:I'd rather try to sway your opinions on vegetables as you probably don't really GET the ill nuances of broccoli. You like brussel sprouts dawg?




I'm not trying to sound like a purist here but broccoli has been played out since the mid-90s. Not that the state of vegetables is all that exciting in the 2010s.

 

[tech12z]

batmon said:


"Shit sounds like chicken...…"







I don't know what that phrase means, but I'm definitely bout to start using it heavy.

 

[white_tea]

Appreciate the honesty but ban this cornball!

 

[white_tea]

Also, D12???

 

[Fred_Garvin]

staxwax said:naw I was joking. southern rap is just something I could never really get with on the whole. felt like they took those das efx crucial conflict gimmicks i never liked to begin with to another dimension. I remember bone thugs was a joke to me when they first came out. That whole style had me rolling. Its a thuggish ruggish bone still brings a smile to my face for that reason. bbq, jazz, funk, lemonade and porches, however, i fully support. And ive always been a big geto boys and (early) scarface fan.

Seems weird that you make this comment about southern rap, and then mention three northern artists as examples of the style you don't like. I can't help agreeing with:


HarveyCanal said:this is a post about you and not the actual music itself.

 

[batmon]

tech12z said:batmon said:


"Shit sounds like chicken...…"







I don't know what that phrase means, but I'm definitely bout to start using it heavy.




Shit Sounds Like Chicken©





play on tastes like chicken

 

[HarveyCanal]

I'm as big a jazz fan as there has ever been. Jelly Roll Morton and Louis Armstrong are perfection to me ears. But I really can't stand any of the mainstream shit that has come out since, including Duke Ellington, Charlie Christian, Billie Holiday, Lester Young, Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Herbie Hancock, etc. If only jazz could just go back to strictly catering to my own sliver of a conception of it.