the (rap) game in 2015
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tech12z said:My first impression after reading this was that it was a neat idea that would never actually catch on. Guess I was wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Rm2TEf-9k
Haha!
Ah, here's Jake Uno's line:
http://hiphopdrumsamples.com/collections/jake-one-snare-jordan-series
I don't produce, so this is all news to me. But it would be interesting to just listen through these for the vybez.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Rm2TEf-9k
Haha!
Ah, here's Jake Uno's line:
http://hiphopdrumsamples.com/collections/jake-one-snare-jordan-series
I don't produce, so this is all news to me. But it would be interesting to just listen through these for the vybez.
bsuwolf said:I may be wrong, but I think the team of musicians who created these songs for Frank Dukes are the members of BADBADNOTGOOD... someone might want to research that further
This would make complete sense, since both Frank Dukes and BBNG are from Toronto.
This would make complete sense, since both Frank Dukes and BBNG are from Toronto.
tech12z said:bsuwolf said:I may be wrong, but I think the team of musicians who created these songs for Frank Dukes are the members of BADBADNOTGOOD... someone might want to research that further
This would make complete sense, since both Frank Dukes and BBNG are from Toronto.
True, Franks dukes linked up BBNG with ghostface for the new Sour Soul album. Which is fantastic in my opinion, I like BBNG a lot more after hearing that record. I think Frank is a big vintage keyboard dude and might hire for the other instruments.
I've been involved in the sample making game since 2008. Been consistently working for this company since then and have been a contributor to 1/3 or more of the samples in 15 products.
http://www.patchbanks.com/category/libraries/urban/classic-urban/
Kingsway music is in direct competition with our samples and we're both Toronto based. Our stuff is also royalty free upon purchase.
I think none of this is new but as original samples dry up, clearance rates rise or producers need something quickly libraries are here for them.
The biggest track my samples have made it to is this one on the intro and outro.
You can hear the original here through the player
http://www.patchbanks.com/soul-soup-samples-vol-2/
All recorded in my bedroom stuidio, I went go to school for production/ engineering and have lots of gear though.
This would make complete sense, since both Frank Dukes and BBNG are from Toronto.
True, Franks dukes linked up BBNG with ghostface for the new Sour Soul album. Which is fantastic in my opinion, I like BBNG a lot more after hearing that record. I think Frank is a big vintage keyboard dude and might hire for the other instruments.
I've been involved in the sample making game since 2008. Been consistently working for this company since then and have been a contributor to 1/3 or more of the samples in 15 products.
http://www.patchbanks.com/category/libraries/urban/classic-urban/
Kingsway music is in direct competition with our samples and we're both Toronto based. Our stuff is also royalty free upon purchase.
I think none of this is new but as original samples dry up, clearance rates rise or producers need something quickly libraries are here for them.
The biggest track my samples have made it to is this one on the intro and outro.
You can hear the original here through the player
http://www.patchbanks.com/soul-soup-samples-vol-2/
All recorded in my bedroom stuidio, I went go to school for production/ engineering and have lots of gear though.
Beatsoup said:
I've been involved in the sample making game since 2008. Been consistently working for this company since then and have been a contributor to 1/3 or more of the samples in 15 products.
http://www.patchbanks.com/category/libraries/urban/classic-urban/
The biggest track my samples have made it to is this one on the intro and outro.
That was my JOINT (ayo!) earlier last year. Thank you for the music - you're talented!
What proportion of music released in your industry are original compositions versus "covers"?
I generally think it's a shame that there aren't more instrumental versions of tracks being released these days. Like, I like the rapping on this, but sometimes you just want to vibe out to the instro:
But, because of how popular/mainstream some of the best rappers are these days, there are actually karaoke versions of some big tracks!
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/blessings-instrumental-karaoke/id970382266?i=970382271
Compared to:
I've been involved in the sample making game since 2008. Been consistently working for this company since then and have been a contributor to 1/3 or more of the samples in 15 products.
http://www.patchbanks.com/category/libraries/urban/classic-urban/
The biggest track my samples have made it to is this one on the intro and outro.
That was my JOINT (ayo!) earlier last year. Thank you for the music - you're talented!
What proportion of music released in your industry are original compositions versus "covers"?
I generally think it's a shame that there aren't more instrumental versions of tracks being released these days. Like, I like the rapping on this, but sometimes you just want to vibe out to the instro:
But, because of how popular/mainstream some of the best rappers are these days, there are actually karaoke versions of some big tracks!
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/blessings-instrumental-karaoke/id970382266?i=970382271
Compared to:
This thread has completely changed my mind about sample libraries in about ten minutes. Every digital sample library I have ever played with was full of B-grade instrumental parts recorded with very little flavor. I thought that sample libraries were for mediocre producers who had shallow crate knowledge, meager musical talent, and limited production skills.
But if you're paying for copyright free music recorded by expert musicians with expert audio engineers on dope studio gear, then we're talking about a whole other thing. If the music is on par with classic library music, that seems totally worth it. However, is Kingsway completely royalty free upon purchase? Their spiel says "master clearance guaranteed." What does that mean, exactly?
Also, it's clear that these dudes are better at recording music than writing. "Instruments that the average beatmaker, producer, & DJ does't have access to." I dos't suggest that they get a copy editor.
But if you're paying for copyright free music recorded by expert musicians with expert audio engineers on dope studio gear, then we're talking about a whole other thing. If the music is on par with classic library music, that seems totally worth it. However, is Kingsway completely royalty free upon purchase? Their spiel says "master clearance guaranteed." What does that mean, exactly?
Also, it's clear that these dudes are better at recording music than writing. "Instruments that the average beatmaker, producer, & DJ does't have access to." I dos't suggest that they get a copy editor.
ketan said:
That was my JOINT (ayo!) earlier last year. Thank you for the music - you're talented!
What proportion of music released in your industry are original compositions versus "covers"?
Thanks man, I can't get through that track because of Young Thug. I like their beat and TI's verse but Young Thug.. Worst rapper ever?
I can only speak for myself, I don't do covers or try to make altered versions of songs ect. I write the same way I would as an artist by jamming out ideas over a loop and hoping to land on a good groove I can work off of. Then have a short melodic idea and build arrangements around it ect. Writing samples is easier than songs as they are short and don't need song structure. I have intentionally duped arrangements or stylistic elements but I wouldn't sleep well to straight copy. No legal problems either.
As for instrumentals, I'm not sure why. It would be very easy to release them digitally. I think rappers don't want to share the beat to have someone out shine them on a mix tape? Lots of unskilled MCs now.. Or no market.. Just speculation.
That was my JOINT (ayo!) earlier last year. Thank you for the music - you're talented!
What proportion of music released in your industry are original compositions versus "covers"?
Thanks man, I can't get through that track because of Young Thug. I like their beat and TI's verse but Young Thug.. Worst rapper ever?
I can only speak for myself, I don't do covers or try to make altered versions of songs ect. I write the same way I would as an artist by jamming out ideas over a loop and hoping to land on a good groove I can work off of. Then have a short melodic idea and build arrangements around it ect. Writing samples is easier than songs as they are short and don't need song structure. I have intentionally duped arrangements or stylistic elements but I wouldn't sleep well to straight copy. No legal problems either.
As for instrumentals, I'm not sure why. It would be very easy to release them digitally. I think rappers don't want to share the beat to have someone out shine them on a mix tape? Lots of unskilled MCs now.. Or no market.. Just speculation.
Beatsoup said:
Thanks man, I can't get through that track because of Young Thug. I like their beat and TI's verse but Young Thug.. Worst rapper ever?
A-ha... I actually love Thugga. I won't try to convince you on him, but to help you cram in understanding why - and this isn't a simple comparison - he's kinda like Das Efx 4.0... mad crazy style as a rappeur.
There's also an official version with a nice Killer Mike verse.
Thanks man, I can't get through that track because of Young Thug. I like their beat and TI's verse but Young Thug.. Worst rapper ever?
A-ha... I actually love Thugga. I won't try to convince you on him, but to help you cram in understanding why - and this isn't a simple comparison - he's kinda like Das Efx 4.0... mad crazy style as a rappeur.
There's also an official version with a nice Killer Mike verse.
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