the saying ”things happen for a reason” yay or nay

This thread really hit home for me as I have been hanging out with this girl lately who happens to say "Que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be, it is what it is" DIRECT QUOTE! and this increases with alcohol consumption. I keep on trying to stop her by interjecting C'est la vie. Take that!

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Really need to up my conversationalist game, god damn.
 
you say tomato - I say tomato
Once I witnessed an opposing attorney say this to a judge by way of explaining why her view of the case differed from mine.

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...this is the most egregious case of false advertising since my suit against the film "The Never Ending Story"!
 
The worst is when people reply to something I said with "that's what I'm talking about"

No it isn't! I just said it! It's what I'm talking about!
And how do you know that the other person didn't say the same thing in another conversation with somebody else? Ain't nothing wrong with that expression.

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I [...] believe things happen because of chance and/or your own actions.
What is the nature of chance then? Are you connecting it to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
 
the use of ''c'est la vie'' recently (top chef) was cringeworthy

however were all the same in the end

asi es
asi son las cosas
asi es la vida
la vida es asi
asi son las

como estas..bien gracias a dios
fica com deus
 
I [...] believe things happen because of chance and/or your own actions.
What is the nature of chance then? Are you connecting it to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
what's that? you sound smart. probably not the best way to word it but i meant chance as in an unpredictable random occurrence.
 
you say tomato - I say tomato
Once I witnessed an opposing attorney say this to a judge by way of explaining why her view of the case differed from mine.

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...I'd like to cite the Supreme Court ruling in Finders v. Keepers
 
My mother came out of this really old black forest farmers family and those guys used enough sayings to string long coversations out of them... Most of them were really horrible, some of them funny but they all don't really work if translated into english...
 
But, as a philosophy, I can't fault it. You can look at it as a simplified version of Nietzsche's notion of Amor fati (love of fate) wherein you accept every occurance in your life as positive and necessary. Or in Judaism, the saying "gam zeh letovah" ("this too is for the best").
i think this is precisely why it bugs me so much because i don't believe in fate at all and believe things happen because of chance and/or your own actions. like bassie said, this saying is a little too close to "it's God's will"

the other part that bothers me is that when it is said, it reeks of lazy thinking (or none at all) or is used as a cop out excuse for taking no accountability for your own actions, (i.e. well if everything happens for a reason, i really don't need to put any effort into examining this)

for those reasons above, i have always been irked by the shallowness of the saying.
I guess I'm looking at it from a different perspective. I don't believe in the will of God or predetermined fate either, so that's not really what I was trying to say. Nietzsche's quote is "Amor fati - Love your fate, which is in fact your life." So as you go through life, instead of looking at things that happen to you as "good" or "bad" things imposed by circumstance or outside forces, embrace it all as your life, for better or worse.

So on the contrary, instead of giving up and floating through life as if everything is out of your own control, you can look at every experience as a positive and necessary part of your life, and therefore within your own control, and use that to craft your own future.

I doubt people think that much about saying "Everything happens for a reason"; I think it's just a thing people say when they don't know what to say. But that's how I see it.
 
i think my favorite American saying is:
"you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first"
 
Man, I sound like a first-year philosophy major.
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craft your own future
"Life is not about finding yourself ? it's about creating yourself." - sign in one of my co-worker's cubicle. I just went looking for it to get the exact phrasing right, and noticed she also has one that says....










wait for it........























"Everything happens for a reason." (American proverb)

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I [...] believe things happen because of chance and/or your own actions.
What is the nature of chance then? Are you connecting it to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
what's that? you sound smart. probably not the best way to word it but i meant chance as in an unpredictable random occurrence. But what explains the existence of unpredictability and randomness? I'm personally not inclined to believe in anything that can't be fully explained, be it fate or chance. The case for chance on a quantum level has been made but it hasn't been clearly connected to what takes place on a macro level.
 
Man, I sound like a first-year philosophy major.
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craft your own future
F*ck, did I actually say that?

Just accept things as they come, and keep it moving. Y ya.
 
just another hurdle...

this thread is really coming full circle and we could apply most of it to facebook statuses

so many horrible, out of place, random quotes
 
I'm with LadyDay on this one. The always-omitted flipside of "everything happens for a reason" is that you rarely get to find out what that reason is. Still, as she points out, labeling things as "good" or "bad" doesn't change anything. Assigning blame rarely does, either, but I'll admit that it's pretty irresistible.