The thread where you hate on Kanye's new album

[mannybolone]

4YearGraduate said: No longer do we need a print reviewer using classic descriptives such as "nasal/baritone flow" ( 90's rap review related) or "aggressive" or whathaveyou.




CRISP SNARES.





(I'm sure I used some variation on that at least a dozen times during my URB tenure)





BTW, is there a rapper who actually is both nasal AND baritone? Maybe Biggie?

 

[batmon]

mannybolone said:faux_rillz said:brokenrecord said:Can at least say it sounds a lot better when not accompanied by a wretched bird video.




The bird video is great





Kanye = the only famous rapper that still matters




Damn, really? (Not that I disagree...just wondering who else would be in contention)




Isnt Drake an MC by Soulstrut standards?

 

[batmon]

I played the album about 4 times after I copped, and haven't returned to it.

 

[mannybolone]

batmon said:mannybolone said:faux_rillz said:brokenrecord said:Can at least say it sounds a lot better when not accompanied by a wretched bird video.




The bird video is great





Kanye = the only famous rapper that still matters




Damn, really? (Not that I disagree...just wondering who else would be in contention)




Isnt Drake an MC by Soulstrut standards?




Drake matters?

 

[batmon]

mannybolone said:batmon said:mannybolone said:faux_rillz said:brokenrecord said:Can at least say it sounds a lot better when not accompanied by a wretched bird video.




The bird video is great





Kanye = the only famous rapper that still matters




Damn, really? (Not that I disagree...just wondering who else would be in contention)




Isnt Drake an MC by Soulstrut standards?




Drake matters?




As a Rapper - not ta me.

 

[faux_rillz]

batmon said:mannybolone said:faux_rillz said:brokenrecord said:Can at least say it sounds a lot better when not accompanied by a wretched bird video.




The bird video is great





Kanye = the only famous rapper that still matters




Damn, really? (Not that I disagree...just wondering who else would be in contention)




Isnt Drake an MC by Soulstrut standards?




Doesn't matter. His music is baby food.

 

[faux_rillz]

mannybolone said:


Nicky Minaj has gotten a shit load of coverage. The fact that a small portion of that coverage might have been "negative" reviews (that's not true, btw. The album has actually gotten quantitatively high marks) isn't likely to do much against a tide of just general attention that's putting an artist out there. I've been reading/seeing covearge on Minaj for well over a year.




Really? From whom?





I haven't seen a single positive review of that record.

 

[mannybolone]

faux_rillz said:mannybolone said:


Nicky Minaj has gotten a shit load of coverage. The fact that a small portion of that coverage might have been "negative" reviews (that's not true, btw. The album has actually gotten quantitatively high marks) isn't likely to do much against a tide of just general attention that's putting an artist out there. I've been reading/seeing covearge on Minaj for well over a year.




Really? From whom?





I haven't seen a single positive review of that record.




http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/11/album-review-nicki-minajs-pink-friday.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/vd8r


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/69206/236468





And by quantitatively high, I meant that the aggregate score of her album is still on the positive end (though nowhere near Kanye level): http://www.metacritic.com/music/pink-friday/critic-reviews

 

[cookbook]

mannybolone said:cookbook said:


the majority of the buying public isn't even aware that music is reviewed/critiqued anymore.




Naw, I tihnk that's completely backwards. I think the public is inundated with reviews/critiques all the time except now they don't have to go to the back of Rolling Stone, they get it in their twitter feed. Our society is far far far more inundated with reviews than we ever have been. What's changed is the medium, not the messages.




i think we are confusing reviews and opinions. i am more speaking to the review/critique in the traditional form. the 300k+ people that bought Nikki's record are not aware that Rolling Stone continues to review records, nor would they ever care what that review says. obviously they will continue to care what a friend or celebrity thinks on twitter, but that is FAR from a review/critique.





b/w





i thought your MBDTF review was well thought out and articulated, i still care!

 

[noz]

This thread is starting to read like a writing exercise. How many words can you tease out of the conceit "BUT PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS WORK REALLY HARD ON THEIR MUSIC TOO" without actually saying "BUT PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS WORK REALLY HARD ON THEIR MUSIC TOO"?





If the only new rap you listen to is the rap made by your friends then you're probably not qualified to speak on the subject.





Unless, of course, your name is Big Sean.

 

[pcmr]

nicki minaj got disk of the week in my local culture weekly


and they never let hiphop get the main spot on that page


except when its pitchforkingly trendy





i don't hatt the album i dont love it


i like spelunk's rant and doc's rebutal


the figure skating routine thing is the best thing in this thread


and props for the pre-emptive title way back when

 

[faux_rillz]

noz said:


If the only new rap you listen to is the rap made by your friends then you're probably not qualified to speak on the subject.





Unless, of course, your name is Big Sean.




Listening to Consequence qualifies you to speak on new rap?

 

[noz]

[Listening to Consequence qualifies you to speak on new rap?

 

[4YearGraduate]

PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS LIVE AT TE EL REY THEATRE DECEMBER 11th





SECRET HOUSE PARTY HEADLINE





COME PARTY WITH 1000 KANYE FANS














WE WORK REALLY HARD ON OUR MUSIC





figured I should get some pub out of this thread

 

[Soulhawk]

I just heard that that Kanye is like 'Blue' period Joni Mitchell with a Twitter account





rofl

 

[faux_rillz]

Soulhawk said:I just heard that that Kanye is like 'Blue' period Joni Mitchell with a Twitter account




My friends work really hard to capture the essence of Blue period Joni Mitchell, too.

 

[maru]

Finally decided to give this a listen after all of the hype and the Pitchfork 10. I must admit, this is a pretty impressive album, and I HATE Kanye. If he weren't such a tool, I might be able to enjoy his music more.

 

[batmon]

maru said:Finally decided to give this a listen after all of the hype and the Pitchfork 10. I must admit, this is a pretty impressive album, and I HATE Kanye. If he weren't such a tool, I might be able to enjoy his music more.




How does his attitude alter what you hear? The samples sound different? What filters the exp?

 

[maru]

batmon said:maru said:Finally decided to give this a listen after all of the hype and the Pitchfork 10. I must admit, this is a pretty impressive album, and I HATE Kanye. If he weren't such a tool, I might be able to enjoy his music more.




How does his attitude alter what you hear? The samples sound different? What filters the exp?




I think attitude and public persona has a lot to do with your overall likeability, at least for me. It's the same for actors, athletes, musicians ??? if you're a tool and treat people like shit then that will to some degree affect how your work is perceived. It doesn't change whether or not it's good or not ??? I admitted that Kanye's album was really good. But the fact that I don't particularly respect him as a person makes it hard for me to be a fan and enjoy his music like a fan typically would.





I guess a close correlation would be Lebron and the shit he pulled in the off season. I actually really liked him as a player and person when he was on the Cavs, but I think what he did in the off season was pretty disrespectful and honestly fucked up to Cleveland and Cavs fans. Now, not much of a fan.

 

[batmon]

I totally disagree.





I dont let any off-court, People Magazine, etc, stuff influence my listening/visual experience.





All my favorite artists have done fucked up things. This is such a tired idea.