Timmy Digalot Rule #1-Post '75 Records are Wack (yeah, right!)
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JectWon said:
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Can you honestly say those strings add to the pretty slick groove that the rhythm section created?
Heck yeah, the strings make it better. Reminds me of this...
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Can you honestly say those strings add to the pretty slick groove that the rhythm section created?
Heck yeah, the strings make it better. Reminds me of this...
[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/LO0qXxduRPU[/media]
HarveyCanal said:JectWon said:
[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/z-82lZZ_DL4[/media]
Can you honestly say those strings add to the pretty slick groove that the rhythm section created?
Heck yeah, the strings make it better. Reminds me of this...
[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/LO0qXxduRPU[/media]
Ok, well I'm fuckin' nuts, then...because I dig your submission but do not enjoy the Ayers one. I just think the Ayers track would sound better without the strings at all.
[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/z-82lZZ_DL4[/media]
Can you honestly say those strings add to the pretty slick groove that the rhythm section created?
Heck yeah, the strings make it better. Reminds me of this...
[media]//www.youtube.com/embed/LO0qXxduRPU[/media]
Ok, well I'm fuckin' nuts, then...because I dig your submission but do not enjoy the Ayers one. I just think the Ayers track would sound better without the strings at all.
Well, the Temptations original was all about the strings, so anyone covering the song would likely see them as necessary.
JectWon said:Nope...fuck your level headed and perfectly rational logic and fuck strings.
Dance, sucker...
Dance, sucker...
Ive heard the "no strings" thang before, and I dont get it?
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
batmon said:Ive heard the "no strings" thang before, and I dont get it?
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
Honestly, for me if it isn't done "right", it just sounds bad...like, literally uncomfortable to my ears.
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
Honestly, for me if it isn't done "right", it just sounds bad...like, literally uncomfortable to my ears.
batmon said:Ive heard the "no strings" thang before, and I dont get it?
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
I'm not anti-strings, but the strings in that song suck, he's right.
I think some foos find strings too bourgie/classicalmusicman
Barry White lived off strings and made em great, same with Gene Page shit and some great disco tracks.
Answering the question, I like Bernard Wright. Made great tracks all after 1975.
Is there some notion that Soul/Funk loses something when an orchestra or string section is present?
Is it less "Funk Blackman Soul-ish" or somethin'?
Is it really a sonic reason or a perception reason?
I'm not anti-strings, but the strings in that song suck, he's right.
I think some foos find strings too bourgie/classicalmusicman
Barry White lived off strings and made em great, same with Gene Page shit and some great disco tracks.
Answering the question, I like Bernard Wright. Made great tracks all after 1975.
We were all little Timmy's at one time and 75 was a year that stuck out when you started, and I'm trying to reason it out as to why. . Maybe it's because when I started digging I started with CTI/Kudu/Blue Note/Presitge/Atlantic/Epic/ ect... and their golden yrs are all pre Boogie/Disco. Many of them shunned "dance" music at first and as a result when they tried to catch the wave alot of it sounded canned. So as a little dude just starting out those veins of gold you'd been chasing seemed to taper out. The most exciting stuff from 75' and on is indie. Lot's of good indie soul after 75', though it might not appeal to a purist. Here's a few records that come to mind:
Al Johnson Peaceful 78
Erasmus Hall: Your Love Is My Desire 80
Cecil Lyde: Stone Free 80
John Valenti 76
Velvet Hammer 77
Bobby Thurston Sweetest Piece of the pie 78
West Coast Revival 78
Lloyd Price Music Music 78
Ike White Changin Times 76
Trying to become a millionaire 76
Beverly and Duane 78
Micheal Orr Spread Love 76
Gaston S/T 78
Leo's Sunshipp 77
Blair Nightlife 78 (Nice spin Friday night PCMR !)
Al Johnson Peaceful 78
Erasmus Hall: Your Love Is My Desire 80
Cecil Lyde: Stone Free 80
John Valenti 76
Velvet Hammer 77
Bobby Thurston Sweetest Piece of the pie 78
West Coast Revival 78
Lloyd Price Music Music 78
Ike White Changin Times 76
Trying to become a millionaire 76
Beverly and Duane 78
Micheal Orr Spread Love 76
Gaston S/T 78
Leo's Sunshipp 77
Blair Nightlife 78 (Nice spin Friday night PCMR !)
Yes, exactly. I meant '83 being the indicator year like an expiration date.
Taking a whiff from a suspicious carton of milk. "I [em]think[/em] this has gone bad, but lemme check..."
(The site looks great by the way--well done and thanks for your years of hard work.)
RAJ said:
I think 81 was THEE year for Boogie. 82 has some nice joints too. 83 is creeping into drum machine territory.
NachoManCandySandwich said:For the boogies I think 1983 is a good indicator year.
Certainly not a rule, but I bet some people out there would agree.
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(The site looks great by the way--well done and thanks for your years of hard work.)
RAJ said:
I think 81 was THEE year for Boogie. 82 has some nice joints too. 83 is creeping into drum machine territory.
NachoManCandySandwich said:For the boogies I think 1983 is a good indicator year.
Certainly not a rule, but I bet some people out there would agree.
Hey,
As a Black dude, I can tell you that neither I nor my family (and friends) ever avoided post-1975 music. Hell, most of the stuff we jammed to came from that period. Plus, as much as people disparage disco, some serious jams came out of that genre as well (e.g., "Beyond the Clouds"-Quartz, "Work it Out"-Stargard, "Let No Man Put Asunder"-First Choice, "Reaching Out (for Your Love)-Lee Moore, "Devil's Gun"-C.J. & Company, "I'm Caught Up (in a One-Night Love Affair)-Inner Life, "At Midnight"-T-Connection, etc.).
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
As a Black dude, I can tell you that neither I nor my family (and friends) ever avoided post-1975 music. Hell, most of the stuff we jammed to came from that period. Plus, as much as people disparage disco, some serious jams came out of that genre as well (e.g., "Beyond the Clouds"-Quartz, "Work it Out"-Stargard, "Let No Man Put Asunder"-First Choice, "Reaching Out (for Your Love)-Lee Moore, "Devil's Gun"-C.J. & Company, "I'm Caught Up (in a One-Night Love Affair)-Inner Life, "At Midnight"-T-Connection, etc.).
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I think even people who have these rules know they are dumb.
I first heard the no strings rule from people looking for deep/Southern soul. To their discredit some of these people were very serious about the rule. The result is they were listening to a very narrow sound. Never appealed to me. Some songs are good because they are different.
Those Ayers strings give a nice counter point to the rhythm section.
I think we had this discussion once, there might be your favorite records with strings thread somewhere.
I first heard the no strings rule from people looking for deep/Southern soul. To their discredit some of these people were very serious about the rule. The result is they were listening to a very narrow sound. Never appealed to me. Some songs are good because they are different.
Those Ayers strings give a nice counter point to the rhythm section.
I think we had this discussion once, there might be your favorite records with strings thread somewhere.
The more people say that pre-75, post-75 is actually a thing, the more it makes no sense to me.
If any one band not named James Brown kicked off the hip-hop offshoot digging craze of the 90's, it would be Parliament.
Motor Booty Affair from '78 was one of my favorite albums of all time long before I had even grasped the concept of sampling.
Bootsy's first solo album was '76.
In other words...c'mon, man.
If any one band not named James Brown kicked off the hip-hop offshoot digging craze of the 90's, it would be Parliament.
Motor Booty Affair from '78 was one of my favorite albums of all time long before I had even grasped the concept of sampling.
Bootsy's first solo album was '76.
In other words...c'mon, man.
