True Detective

[Hotsauce84]

bassie said:


Newsflash! Men cheat and women *don't* fall apart.




Never? I've seen it happen in real life fairly often, enough to find that scene believable. I can't be the only one here who's experienced or knows someone who's reacted crazily and/or "fallen apart" temporarily over their partner cheating. (I'm not just talking about women either.)





They discuss that in the 'extras' video. How her character did that to put the nail in the coffin, make sure there was absolutely no turning back. (Watching it now and Fukunaga says "drive him away," "destroy his (Hart's) trust in her," and "maybe make herself completely disgusting to him," all of which is understandable, though I would've added "ruined his partner-/friend?-ship" too.)





Granted, maybe I just know some really vindictive people. Ha ha. But still, I don't understand how her reaction makes her character weak. I mean, I feel like Hart is still very much the asshole in all this.

 

[motown67]

I'm less for blaming Tuttle as the mastermind behind this whole thing then I was before. He's too obvious now after the last episode. I would think that there was some cult operating within his schools and he just tried to cover it up rather then being a member.





As for what was shown in the video in the preview for next season i don't think it has to do anything with his own kids. After his reaction to finding the two kids at Ledoux's that led to his offing and his beating of the two boys found with his daughter ANY scene involving children would get a strong reaction.

 

[vintageinfants]

i dont think we're going to get nearly the conclusion we want out of this series. the run-up has made it almost impossible to tie up all of the loose ends and winks and cues and nudges in the amount of time they've left in any kind of satisfactory way.





i am officially bracing for impact at this point.

 

[bassie]

Herm said:bassie said:


Newsflash! Men cheat and women *don't* fall apart.




Never? I've seen it happen in real life fairly often, enough to find that scene believable. I can't be the only one here who's experienced or knows someone who's reacted crazily and/or "fallen apart" temporarily over their partner cheating. (I'm not just talking about women either.)





They discuss that in the 'extras' video. How her character did that to put the nail in the coffin, make sure there was absolutely no turning back. (Watching it now and Fukunaga says "drive him away," "destroy his (Hart's) trust in her," and "maybe make herself completely disgusting to him," all of which is understandable, though I would've added "ruined his partner-/friend?-ship" too.)





Granted, maybe I just know some really vindictive people. Ha ha. But still, I don't understand how her reaction makes her character weak. I mean, I feel like Hart is still very much the asshole in all this.




I stopped reading the second paragrpah at "extras video".





I never said never. And I don't think I called her reaction weak, since I don't think it. I realize strong people break down, too.


I don't need this show to reflect every possibility in real life. I am talking within the parameters of the program and that the actions of the characters - both her's and Rust's - seem inconsistent/unbelievable and lazy/typical compared to how superior the show is overall.


I mean of all the storylines they could have written, *this* is why Rust and Marty stop being friends? Now, that's what's weak.





She is an otherwise even character, even partaking in the same behaviour she loathes in Marty is questionable to me. Having said that, had she had revenge/angry/hurt sex with whoever and threw it in his face at the dining table same way, it would have made more sense than the blubbering bottle-in hand mess they made her to be and that Rust decided to smash at the kitchen counter.

 

[bassie]

vintageinfants said:i dont think we're going to get nearly the conclusion we want out of this series. the run-up has made it almost impossible to tie up all of the loose ends and winks and cues and nudges in the amount of time they've left in any kind of satisfactory way.





i am officially bracing for impact at this point.




do you think we'll find out who the giant with the scarred face is?

 

[vintageinfants]

bassie said:vintageinfants said:i dont think we're going to get nearly the conclusion we want out of this series. the run-up has made it almost impossible to tie up all of the loose ends and winks and cues and nudges in the amount of time they've left in any kind of satisfactory way.





i am officially bracing for impact at this point.




do you think we'll find out who the giant with the scarred face is?




yes. but we wont like it.





my guess is it's not nearly as literal and grotesque as we've built the expectation for.

 

[bassie]

Yea, I was thinking last night there's enough scraggly beards on the show to give leeway to a scarred jaw :[

 

[vintageinfants]

Yea, I was thinking last night there's enough scraggly beards on the show to give leeway to a scarred jaw :[

remember this guy? the guy who re-ignited cohle's downward spiral?

what kind of mask you think he was wearing when his shit caught on fire, and why?

 

[bassie]

Yea, I guess I have this embodiment-of-evil, commanding persona in mind as opposed to a whimpering begging in-custody.


Lange has been the only prisoner with a personality, everyone else they have in for holding/questioning, including the two kids caught with the daughter, have been lumps of putty.

 

[jlee]

bassie said:I mean of all the storylines they could have written, *this* is why Rust and Marty stop being friends? Now, that's what's weak.




To be fair to the writers, while this action may have been the fatal blow, the writers had already outlined a relationship that was waning between Marty & Rust.





I concur, it's not the most interesting part of the story line (nor do I believe it was meant to be), and for sure it could have been enhanced if the writers felt the need, but it was hardly some M. Night Shyamalan type of "wrap up a 2hr movie in 10mins" weak writing.





I suspect they just needed a viable sub-plot as to why these two persons don't have any relationship anymore - this was probably the easiest that didn't necessarily take away from the primary storyboard.

 

[bassie]

jlee said:bassie said:I mean of all the storylines they could have written, *this* is why Rust and Marty stop being friends? Now, that's what's weak.




To be fair to the writers, while this action may have been the fatal blow, the writers had already outlined a relationship that was waning between Marty & Rust.





(...)





I suspect they just needed a viable sub-plot as to why these two persons don't have any relationship anymore - this was probably the easiest that didn't necessarily take away from the primary storyboard.




But how about one that could have been related or added to it?





I hear you. I think it would have worked (and admittedly have been predictable in its own way) if it had to do with the job/investigation given the "type the report up"/"without me, there is no you" exchange.





Apologies - I feel like I am beating this to death. A momentary weak spot in the plot-line. I'll live.

 

[thrope]

the monster we all want to be CTHULHU is just going to be the creepy guy that was mowing the schools lawn the first time they went there. he had a scraggly beard and scars on his face.

 

[Controller_7]

motown67 said:I'm less for blaming Tuttle as the mastermind behind this whole thing then I was before. He's too obvious now after the last episode. I would think that there was some cult operating within his schools and he just tried to cover it up rather then being a member.





As for what was shown in the video in the preview for next season i don't think it has to do anything with his own kids. After his reaction to finding the two kids at Ledoux's that led to his offing and his beating of the two boys found with his daughter ANY scene involving children would get a strong reaction.




True. He reacts to that kind of stuff, but...





Rust wouldn't necessarily say he "needs" Marty to see it unless it was his kid. Also, his daughter drew those pictures when she was a kid and it was never explained what inspired them.

 

[rootlesscosmo]

how about Rust's girlfriend? she was a potentially normal woman who only got like 1 scene.

 

[rootlesscosmo]

motown67 said:I'm less for blaming Tuttle as the mastermind behind this whole thing then I was before. He's too obvious now after the last episode.

 

[discos_alma]

I don't know, I feel like Rust has a piece to play in these murders - at least having previous contact with the group of people doing them. The fact that the first murder (Dora Lange, I believe) took place on his daughter's birthday might mean that the murderers are sending a message to Cohle.





We don't know much about Cohle's life before his current job, just that he worked undercover and had a history with drug use. This gap in the audience's knowledge conveniently leaves room for surprises in the plot in the final two episodes.

 

[phongone]

I mean, who hasn't been propositioned by a T-Mobile employee to f*ck them in the ass.








;blap: :raw: :talib:

 

[cai]

I feel like one of the two will die in the final episode. Not sure who but I'm leaning towards Marty. Possibly he'll die saving Rust's life and there will be some kind of meaningful exchange between the two before he expires.





*This is based on absolutely no evidence and now I've typed it probably won't happen.

 

[Controller_7]

Who eats pasta like that!

 

[DB_Cooper]

Controller_7 said:Who eats pasta like that!




I heard this was the working title during scripting.