what do you guys think about (sampling related)

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sample musicians such as the gaslamp killer who more or less loops 24 bars from obscure records from artists such as erin koray. i think there was a post sometime ago about him using a 'sons of spirit' track. i see it more as a rejuvinated recycling, since nothing is really being 'flipped', nor are the sounds being alienated from the original context, they're more like covers of the originals. i dig what he releases (pause)
 
im sure it sounds great and thats what matters most, but ripping a whole song is pretty lame. generally if i think a song is already perfect as-is, i dont wanna sample it. i cant go anywhere better with it, so whats the point.
 
sample musicians such as the gaslamp killer who more or less loops 16 bars from obscure records from artists such as erin koray. i think there was a post sometime ago about using a 'sons of spirit' track. i see it more as a rejuvinated recycling, since nothing is really being 'flipped', nor are the sounds being alienated from the original context, they're more like covers of the originals. i dig what he releases (pause)
I know I have NEVER heard of the "gaslamp killer." Who dat? So this guy just loops a few bars of a record and that is it? I would rather just listen to the damn record! LOL. Plaese to post some of the "gaslamp killer's" best work so we can pass judgement. MP3s plaese........
 
sample musicians such as the gaslamp killer who more or less loops 16 bars from obscure records from artists such as erin koray. i think there was a post sometime ago about using a 'sons of spirit' track. i see it more as a rejuvinated recycling, since nothing is really being 'flipped', nor are the sounds being alienated from the original context, they're more like covers of the originals. i dig what he releases (pause)
I know I have NEVER heard of the "gaslamp killer." Who dat? So this guy just loops a few bars of a record and that is it? I would rather just listen to the damn record! LOL. Plaese to post some of the "gaslamp killer's" best work so we can pass judgement. MP3s plaese........
exactly, but yeah i dont wanna criticise the dude till i hear for sure what he's all about.

if he does what is being said, i could probably duplicate his record by downloading soundclips from a couple auctions and looping that shit. no skill.
 
this isn't any sort of malicious criticism towards him. i dig his stuff, like i mentioned, i believe this same topic was brought up on another post about his song "aduet" where a singer was added over a long 'sons of spirit' loop.

http://www.brandyflower.com/GLK/ROBOTS.mp3 (singer added)


well for instance: http://www.brandyflower.com/GLK/AFTERALL.mp3: i believe he drums over this track. (based on videos and performances i've seen.)

i assume in a way they're more re-edits than anything, but not promoted as such.

http://www.myspace.com/thegaslampkiller
 
Sorry dude, not feelin' this shit AT ALL. It sounds like a hot mess and the vocals are terrible.
 
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it doesnt sound bad really but knowing that somebody is tryin to make a name off something that takes so little effort is
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, but whatever.
 
i didnt listen to those clips but the description of the sampling style makes me think of Egon. I ddnt really understand Egon's deal, its basically sounds like remixes to me, not original songs.. but, they have their own titles and are presented as original songs. im referring to:
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i didnt listen to those clips but the description of the sampling style makes me think of Egon. I ddnt really understand Egon's deal, its basically sounds like remixes to me, not original songs.. but, they have their own titles and are presented as original songs. im referring to:
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that was a break/scratch record.

I know all of these dudes so I'm gonna keep it...

I will say there's many ways to make music through sampling. Taking big ass pieces of a song and claiming it as yours is NAGL, but I haven't heard the source material for some of these so I can't say.
 
It's funny cause this time last year I was talking to Will and Mestizo @ Turntablel.ab LA and mentioning that they should check out the Strut.

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I see this as a middle ground between djing and producing. He's not really producing a track in the sense of orchestrating and arranging (or rearranging as it is) a bunch of noises and is instead just playing obscure tracks and throwing a break under it, or whatever else.

love it or hate it it's kind of a double edge sword. I find most times people try and "flip" a song I really dig, the beat pales in comparison to the song it samples. but then someone comes along and chops the shit out of something or layers it with all sorts of other shit, making an incredible beat* and after a few listens you spot one element from a song you know and you get that
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*not saying I always like super complex productions, keeping it simple can create music just as good.
 
Thanks to that Myspace page I now feel in tune with the LA hipster scene.

Dude films himself getting a haircut while wearing his own GLK t-shirt.

I remember seeing A LOT of coverage on him in REUP Magazine.

P.S. Just to play devil's advocate: I recall many of the samples from Endtroducing were big 'ol chunks of songs as well (which Shadow put together beautifully but still...I'm sayin).
 
Thanks to that Myspace page I now feel in tune with the LA hipster scene.

Dude films himself getting a haircut while wearing his own GLK t-shirt.

I remember seeing A LOT of coverage on him in REUP Magazine.

P.S. Just to play devil's advocate: I recall many of the samples from Endtroducing were big 'ol chunks of songs as well (which Shadow put together beautifully but still...I'm sayin).
people's instinctive travels was mostly long ass loops with drums too. but that was way better than this.
 
this isn't any sort of malicious criticism towards him. i dig his stuff, like i mentioned, i believe this same topic was brought up on another post about his song "aduet" where a singer was added over a long 'sons of spirit' loop.

http://www.brandyflower.com/GLK/ROBOTS.mp3 (singer added)


well for instance: http://www.brandyflower.com/GLK/AFTERALL.mp3: i believe he drums over this track. (based on videos and performances i've seen.)

i assume in a way they're more re-edits than anything, but not promoted as such.

http://www.myspace.com/thegaslampkiller
just my opinion, but this is unlistenable.


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P.S. Just to play devil's advocate: I recall many of the samples from Endtroducing were big 'ol chunks of songs as well (which Shadow put together beautifully but still...I'm sayin).
Lots of people still try to discern between types of production and good and bad producers by making the looping connection, like somebody saying "I hate puffy because all he does is loop something, but I love DJ Shadow and premier because they chop up everything and you cant recognize it!". Every producer loops. Endtroducing is mostly drum loops and huge sample sections - yet it is pumped as some sort of mpc-as-instrument-unrecognizable-sample-wizardry.

if a beat is hot, it's hot, loop or not. it doesn't matter
 
I used to see this dude at the record shows. he always weirded me out. I'm suprised none of the other SD strutters are chiming in on this guy. From what I've heard he's a decent dude, and I don't know him personally so whatever. I didn't realize he was in L.A. now.