what would you put on a roots of heavy metal mix

This question is difficult - I mean, do you see Sabbath era bands as being "Metal", or do you see them as "proto metal" (barf), and see bands like Metallica as being the original "metal"??? I guess most people think of the original metal being late 70's/early 80's, but there are plenty of truly metal sounding bands/albums from the late 60's/early 70's. I would say Budgie is metal. I would say David Bowie's "the man who sold the world" lp is metal. So, therefore, the "roots of metal" would be a lot of early/mid 60's groups, no?
 
yes crink you speak truth

metallica is still new school to me as they were already influeced by "the new wave of brittish heavy metal"

you need some hawkwind up in that bitch too man



 
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This question is difficult - I mean, do you see Sabbath era bands as being "Metal", or do you see them as "proto metal" (barf), and see bands like Metallica as being the original "metal"??? I guess most people think of the original metal being late 70's/early 80's, but there are plenty of truly metal sounding bands/albums from the late 60's/early 70's. I would say Budgie is metal. I would say David Bowie's "the man who sold the world" lp is metal. So, therefore, the "roots of metal" would be a lot of early/mid 60's groups, no?
most people see it the roots coming from the late 60's/early 70's. That's why in 1980 they dubbed the glut of heavy bands coming out of England "The New Wave Of British Heavy Metal." The Metallica's of the world came 4-5 years after that and took shit to it's lowest point when they started doing Swizz Beats remixes.
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This question is difficult - I mean, do you see Sabbath era bands as being "Metal", or do you see them as "proto metal" (barf), and see bands like Metallica as being the original "metal"??? I guess most people think of the original metal being late 70's/early 80's, but there are plenty of truly metal sounding bands/albums from the late 60's/early 70's. I would say Budgie is metal. I would say David Bowie's "the man who sold the world" lp is metal. So, therefore, the "roots of metal" would be a lot of early/mid 60's groups, no?
most people see it the roots coming from the late 60's/early 70's. That's why in 1980 they dubbed the glut of heavy bands coming out of England "The New Wave Of British Heavy Metal." The Metallica's of the world came 4-5 years after that and took shit to it's lowest point when they started doing Swizz Beats remixes.
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but wouldn't the title "the new wave of heavy metal" in fact point to an already existing style?
 
but wouldn't the title "the new wave of heavy metal" in fact point to an already existing style?
correct - that's why the roots of heavy metal is considered to be bands from the 60's/70s.
 
but wouldn't the title "the new wave of heavy metal" in fact point to an already existing style?
correct - that's why the roots of heavy metal is considered to be bands from the 60's/70s.
I guess I'm just looking at it like "the roots" is meaning bands pre-dating the coining of the genre.
 
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Babyface and Bad Reputation come to mind - ThinLizzy
 

lotsa early 70s "hard rock" that gave birth to metal...

The Hard Stuff
Fanny Adams
Incredible Hog
Tractor
Toad
Leafhound
Jocefus
Dust
Sweet "Set me free" tell me this song doesnt sound like 80s metal
Uli Jon Roth era Scorpions
any thing from Judas Priest "Sad Wings of Destiny" LP..the first true metal-by-design LP
 
I think whether Black Sabbath is the first metal band or merely the direct inspiration for the first metal bands is up for debate...

Ozzy credits the early Kinks for turning him on to noise...

Pentagram and Judas Priest are the earliest post Sab metal groups that spring to mind
 
lotsa early 70s "hard rock" that gave birth to metal...

The Hard Stuff
Fanny Adams
Incredible Hog
Tractor
Toad
Leafhound
Jocefus
Dust
Sweet "Set me free" tell me this song doesnt sound like 80s metal
Uli Jon Roth era Scorpions
any thing from Judas Priest "Sad Wings of Destiny" LP..the first true metal-by-design LP
Damn dude. The only name I recognize out of your post is Judas Priest. I need to educate myself...
 
lotsa early 70s "hard rock" that gave birth to metal...

The Hard Stuff
Fanny Adams
Incredible Hog
Tractor
Toad
Leafhound
Jocefus
Dust
Sweet "Set me free" tell me this song doesnt sound like 80s metal
Uli Jon Roth era Scorpions
any thing from Judas Priest "Sad Wings of Destiny" LP..the first true metal-by-design LP
nice, finally someone is stepping their game up... most of the posts are the hard rock/metal equiv of a funk thread listing james brown and curtis mayfield... where's the raer's?

oh, and Edgar Broughton, the Groundhogs, and the Pink Fairies...
 
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to the Groundhogs, SPLIT was what like '70?

Really though, its hard to draw a line where heavy British blues rock transforms into metal... plenty of those bands existed before Sabbath... but Sabb gets most of the credit because they put all the elements together- extremely heavy blues rock with dark imagery and lyrics...

Dust isn't exciting to me, though I still have those records... they were like Bang, had an interesting track here and there but aren't really 'that really schitt'...

Always wanted to hear Josephus and Leafhound but I've never had the opportunity...

But there are SO MANY heavy rock bands from the late 60s/70s, many are obscure esp in this country...
 
I guess I'm just looking at it like "the roots" is meaning bands pre-dating the coining of the genre.
and the genre wasn't coined until after most of the bands were making this kind of music. There was no term "Heavy Metal" when Sabbath's first record came out.