i think obama is offically done. he hyped himself to the nyt this past week, saying he was gonna take on hillary....and if that was his "fight mode" last night, he needs some more training, or a set of nuts.the truth, however, could be that he is really just a moderate democrat, so its hard for him to criticize hillary for veering towards the middle, when he would and has done the same. hillary should have been crucified for her vote to call the iranian revolutionary guard a "terrorist organization". the resolution was drafted by the gop and basically legitimizes bush's war propaganda. edwards won the debate, imo, because he nailed her on her vote, as well as other areas where she has strayed from democratic principles. obama couldn't really say much because he conveniently avoided the vote on iran. i really have nothing against obama, but its amazing to me that he is getting so much support from liberals. he is not a left wing candidate, not even close. btw, hillary deserves major credit for the way she was able to take all those hits last night and keep swinging. she's gotta be the strongest dem or republican on stage since her husband. kucinich and biden had the best zingers. that rudy line will be played over and over again. so true.