Cratediggers.com ????? WTF??

[hcrink]

So you've lost thousands of dollars trying to run a site selling dollar records and recycling "dangerous" used vinyl... and you've been collecting records since the 90's but by your own admission know very little about them. This just doesn't make any kind of sense. Not even by soul strut standards. What is in this for you?

 

[PATX]

Come on Crink admit you only got into raer records because YOU ARE A FAILED BEATMAKER. You thought raer records would make better beats and improve your flow. But they didn't!

 

[CR8DGRS]

So you've lost thousands of dollars trying to run a site selling dollar records and recycling "dangerous" used vinyl... and you've been collecting records since the 90's but by your own admission know very little about them. This just doesn't make any kind of sense. Not even for by soul strut standards. What is in this for you?

Maybe because you don't know the whole story.

I didn't loose thousand when selling dollar bin records - I made money. I had a decent amount of clients and regulars who purchased from me.

The thousands lost - is more like - what has been invested to get the site to what you see today.

What's in it for me? To give something to a culture that I love, and believe in.

 

[mylatency]

So you've lost thousands of dollars trying to run a site selling dollar records and recycling "dangerous" used vinyl... and you've been collecting records since the 90's but by your own admission know very little about them. This just doesn't make any kind of sense. Not even for by soul strut standards. What is in this for you?

Sorry to be debbie downer but crinkle hit the nail on the head, ^^^ this is the million dollar question. Cratediggers.biz and actually all of CR8DGRS responses, whether he is Brix Bearbrick or not, stinks of mega failure trustafarian time wasting.

Sigh, Mr. Bearbrick, just take it to eBay and see if you can AT LEAST run and open a successful (read profitable) eBay store listing "mint dusty" records at .99 cents a piece. See if you can get your friends to consign stuff with you. "Recycle" some vinyl and see how the bowls sell. If you can at least turn a profit then maybe you should invest some time in developing your database driven architecture to slang Montavani and Neil Diamond. Give me a Frickin' break, sorry dude.

If you can't even handle creating a decent functional site and buzz during a 5 year period with whatever funds and time you've wasted I don't know what to say. I really question your whole drive, but hey it's your life/reality, we're just living in it LULZZZZZ.

Good luck, you're going to need it! I'm bowing out of this amazing thread.

 

[DOR]

The best way to get something up to be an alternative to ebay would to somehow involve a partnership with someone like Discogs or GEMM.

If I was Raj and wanted to take this site to the next level. I would step to Discog and form a corporation. I'd hire a few people with the needed backgrounds for the biz and I would then step to some major world dealers. Offering them shares in the corp to sell through the biz.

I'd take 6-12 months just building up the site. Making sure the nobody could fuck the site as far as resources go (It's all about information) Massive discography, label scan's, reviews, forums, etc. One of the beauties is that, site member's help build up the database and content the whole time.


I would offer incentives for people to sell. Example like, if they sell records on the site and they generate the site money through ads. Give them a portion of the ad revenue they create.

Once the site was getting pretty damn big, I would step to a company that was trying to take on Paypal. Maybe even step to google checkout or something and then I would drop the auction portion of the site.

I think somewhere down the line I would try to bring in indie labels and indie distribution. Where they would sell direct to the consumer thru the site with physical product & online music and you would get a small fraction of the sale.

And after all that. I would somehow figure out a way to offer music e-tickets to concerts & shows and charge a small faction of the service fee that's ticket master charges. FUCK THOSE ASS CLOWNS!!!


If you build it. They will come!!!!

This is not far off from what I intended. I had to start somewhere. It took a lot of time to get to this point. Thus far, I have financed the project myself as well as everything else.

It's not something you can just decide to do. Throwing money & time into it won't make it happen. You already need to be established. That's why I use Soulstrut & Discogs as an example.

Only someone who already has a decent online presence can then start the process.

Doesn't matter anyways. I'm planning on winning 15 mill in the lotto tonight and I'll just buy the strut from Raj & probably buy Discogs also and I'll do it all my damn self. I'd have a much better plan worked out mind you. What I wrote above was the first time I've thought about it.

 

[mylatency]

So you've lost thousands of dollars trying to run a site selling dollar records and recycling "dangerous" used vinyl... and you've been collecting records since the 90's but by your own admission know very little about them. This just doesn't make any kind of sense. Not even for by soul strut standards. What is in this for you?

Maybe because you don't know the whole story.

I didn't loose thousand when selling dollar bin records - I made money. I had a decent amount of clients and regulars who purchased from me.

The thousands lost - is more like - what has been invested to get the site to what you see today.

What's in it for me? To give something to a culture that I love, and believe in.

Really? You made money off of filling the niche that sandboxautomatic.com and Goodwill/Salvation army couldn't fill? GOOHWTBS!

 

[faux_rillz]

So you've lost thousands of dollars trying to run a site selling dollar records and recycling "dangerous" used vinyl... and you've been collecting records since the 90's but by your own admission know very little about them. This just doesn't make any kind of sense. Not even by soul strut standards. What is in this for you?

The Game(TM) often confounds...

 

[DJFerrari]

It's not something you can just decide to do. Throwing money & time into it won't make it happen. You already need to be established. That's why I use Soulstrut & Discogs as an example.

Only someone who already has a decent online presence can then start the process.

Doesn't matter anyways. I'm planning on winning 15 mill in the lotto tonight and I'll just buy the strut from Raj & probably buy Discogs also and I'll do it all my damn self. I'd have a much better plan worked out mind you. What I wrote above was the first time I've thought about it.

Ah... that brings me back to a couple years ago when I pitched the idea to Raj. I never did hear back... whatup?

 

[DOR]

It's not something you can just decide to do. Throwing money & time into it won't make it happen. You already need to be established. That's why I use Soulstrut & Discogs as an example.

Only someone who already has a decent online presence can then start the process.

Doesn't matter anyways. I'm planning on winning 15 mill in the lotto tonight and I'll just buy the strut from Raj & probably buy Discogs also and I'll do it all my damn self. I'd have a much better plan worked out mind you. What I wrote above was the first time I've thought about it.

Ah... that brings me back to a couple years ago when I pitched the idea to Raj. I never did hear back... whatup?

Well, when I win tonight. I'll buy Raj out and we will make it happen.

You've always seemed like a real stand up guy. I have no doubt that a venture with you would be a success.

 

[DJFerrari]

It's not something you can just decide to do. Throwing money & time into it won't make it happen. You already need to be established. That's why I use Soulstrut & Discogs as an example.

Only someone who already has a decent online presence can then start the process.

Doesn't matter anyways. I'm planning on winning 15 mill in the lotto tonight and I'll just buy the strut from Raj & probably buy Discogs also and I'll do it all my damn self. I'd have a much better plan worked out mind you. What I wrote above was the first time I've thought about it.

Ah... that brings me back to a couple years ago when I pitched the idea to Raj. I never did hear back... whatup?

Well, when I win tonight. I'll buy Raj out and we will make it happen.

You've always seemed like a real stand up guy. I have no doubt that a venture with you would be a success.
Hey thanks! Likewise. Let's go Lotto!

 

[Deep_Sang]

Can I please get an "Extra Dusty" graemlin?

 

[mylatency]

Can I please get an "Extra MINT Dusty" graemlin?

 

[CR8DGRS]

We obviously didn't meet the right way, and I'm obviously not an encyclopedia of rare records.

All the bickering - is getting a bit old.

When the smoke clears from demolition - here is what we are left with:

Me, willing to build you folks a site to meet your needs.

 

[mylatency]

We obviously didn't meet the right way, and I'm obviously not an encyclopedia of rare records.

All the bickering - is getting a bit old.

When the smoke clears from demolition - here is what we are left with:

Me, willing to build you folks a site to meet your needs.

I still doubt you are actually Mr. Brix, btw.

Goodbye.

 

[CR8DGRS]

We obviously didn't meet the right way, and I'm obviously not an encyclopedia of rare records.

All the bickering - is getting a bit old.

When the smoke clears from demolition - here is what we are left with:

Me, willing to build you folks a site to meet your needs.

I still doubt you are actually Mr. Brix, btw.

Goodbye.
Good for you.

 

[faux_rillz]

We obviously didn't meet the right way, and I'm obviously not an encyclopedia of rare records.

All the bickering - is getting a bit old.

When the smoke clears from demolition - here is what we are left with:

Me, willing to build you folks a site to meet your needs.

Dude, the humble servant routine gets a little old.

The reason people are being harsh with you is because there is something implictly arrogant in the endeavor of a dude who doesn't really know the game proposing to build a site that doesn't really fill any void.

It's kind of like those people who don't actually collect records but decide that they want to be DJs because it seems cool.

 

[the3rdstream]

I have dabbled in every element of Hip-Hop

 

[DJFerrari]

When the smoke clears from demolition - here is what we are left with:

Me, willing to build you folks a site to meet your needs.

Not that simple homie... you made a fatal mistake by showing us, the target users of your system, your ignorance on the subject. It's nearly impossible to recover from something like that which is why you MUST know your market and you NEVER publicly launch a website before it's usable. You should have done a beta run through with every type of user on your site. You would have received all the negative feedback you did here, but you would have received it privately so you could go back and make your changes. No turning back now.

I mean this to be constructive feedback... learn from your mistakes and move on. Take it into your next venture if you're so inclined. Don't go down with the sinking ship. I've been through the startup process from the beginning and believe me, I learned more from it's failure than I could have anywhere else.

 

[rascmon]

ideas i want to see for the site:

Checkout needs to be "Backpack", the more items you have in your cart the bigger your backpack gets. Real Hip Hoppaz Only

A random item to be found in the a record included with your order. Items include: crack pipe, moldy weed, IOU from premier

Radical subgenres like Head Knod Schitt, True Banger, Illy Mood Beats

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

That's real talk - once a brand's tainted it's very hard to rescue it... particularly considering that you're dead set on your brand name (which, to begin with, is not very good).

I wonder why Nigel/Breaks4Days hasn't waded in on this, I would think he's got some good advice from the perspective of someone who rebranded himself online.