Is Baseball slowly dying?
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Thymebomb13 said:batmon said:TV numbers and attendance are down.
Shit could turn into Hockey, Wrestling, Heavyweight Boxing, etc.
There are no transcendent stars and its too slow for the ADD generation.
Tell me its going to rescue itself?
I think I saw this argument for the first time about 40 years ago.
It's about the same time I first saw arguments about how soccer would be the dominant American sport any day now.
The ever-increasing price tags on MLB franchises answer the question for you.
No.
People were not talkin about Soccer becoming the dominant American sport when the NASL came in.
Shit could turn into Hockey, Wrestling, Heavyweight Boxing, etc.
There are no transcendent stars and its too slow for the ADD generation.
Tell me its going to rescue itself?
I think I saw this argument for the first time about 40 years ago.
It's about the same time I first saw arguments about how soccer would be the dominant American sport any day now.
The ever-increasing price tags on MLB franchises answer the question for you.
No.
People were not talkin about Soccer becoming the dominant American sport when the NASL came in.
I loved baseball as a kid, played it and watched it religiously, but I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a full 9 inning game. I couldn't even tell you who won the World Series last year. My love for other sports isn't nearly as diminished. And I don't see kids getting interested unless they have parents or friends who are into it.
Of course, it doesn't help that I have been a Mets fan for my whole life. Easy to lose interest when your team is a joke.
Of course, it doesn't help that I have been a Mets fan for my whole life. Easy to lose interest when your team is a joke.
Baseball seems alive and well in Toronto. A lot of it probably has to do with all the hype surrounding this year's team. There would probably be more interest had the Jays not gotten off to such a dismal start to the season.
The pace of Baseball is it's biggest problem. But Golf is still around, so I think we're fine.
The pace of Baseball is it's biggest problem. But Golf is still around, so I think we're fine.
Thymebomb13 said:
It's about the same time I first saw arguments about how soccer would be the dominant American sport any day now.
MLS passed NBA as the third best attendance sport in the US.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2011-11-07/mls-passes-nba-as-third-best-attended-american-sport
I do find watching baseball boring on TV. But much better being there.
Going to a game in Japan is a LOT of fun.
It's about the same time I first saw arguments about how soccer would be the dominant American sport any day now.
MLS passed NBA as the third best attendance sport in the US.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2011-11-07/mls-passes-nba-as-third-best-attended-american-sport
I do find watching baseball boring on TV. But much better being there.
Going to a game in Japan is a LOT of fun.
My yard sells out every game.
Even the mid-week games and even when we're playing shitty.
And it's not warm here most games.
When I watch homeruns in other parks falling into empty stands on SportsCenter it's like some alien shit to me.
Plus the growing Latin population rides (right?); I'm not concerned.
Even the mid-week games and even when we're playing shitty.
And it's not warm here most games.
When I watch homeruns in other parks falling into empty stands on SportsCenter it's like some alien shit to me.
Plus the growing Latin population rides (right?); I'm not concerned.
After the strike, I said fuck baseball and haven't looked back. Baseball is boring as fuck. It's sustained by the boomer generation, and there is going to be some serious TV contract negotiations coming soon, which will theoretically shrink the salaries of the mlb players. Baseball attendance has become the picnic crowd, or as Boston calls them, "pink hats" that go to games for the stadium atmosphere, text surrounded by the illusion of being a part of something/a social event, relative crowd hum, and sing Sweet Caroline at the 7th inning.
The_Non said:Baseball attendance has become the picnic crowd, or as Boston calls them, "pink hats" that go to games for the stadium atmosphere, text surrounded by the illusion of being a part of something/a social event, relative crowd hum, and sing Sweet Caroline at the 7th inning.
True, but there are many diehards like myself just waiting for the team to suck long enough that the pink hats leave and we can actually acquire Red Sox tickets again. I used to go to 30 games a year in my early 20s. By the time they'd won their second World Series of this millennium, it had become impossible to get tickets except through the secondary market. The Red Sox will always have the heart of true Bostonians.
True, but there are many diehards like myself just waiting for the team to suck long enough that the pink hats leave and we can actually acquire Red Sox tickets again. I used to go to 30 games a year in my early 20s. By the time they'd won their second World Series of this millennium, it had become impossible to get tickets except through the secondary market. The Red Sox will always have the heart of true Bostonians.
just spitballing here, but ive noticed that attention to baseball in the US drops CONSIDERABLY during and after a year where the team from the national league wins the world series.
i will confess that while the NL may be the more pure form of the game, all of the 'flaws' of the American League were brought in to draw the person seeking entertainment over sport.
the addition of the extra playoff spot was a watershed moment and made last years playoffs a far better product in more markets, but it's still got its work.
i will confess that while the NL may be the more pure form of the game, all of the 'flaws' of the American League were brought in to draw the person seeking entertainment over sport.
the addition of the extra playoff spot was a watershed moment and made last years playoffs a far better product in more markets, but it's still got its work.
I'm not doubting that, but another thing is the tickets are so goddamn expensive they price out broke shmucks that would like to go to a few games on a regular basis during the season.
I MISS FANS THROWING D BATTERIES AT THE OPPOSING TEAM'S RIGHT FIELDER AT YANKEE STADIUM DAMN IT!
I MISS FANS THROWING D BATTERIES AT THE OPPOSING TEAM'S RIGHT FIELDER AT YANKEE STADIUM DAMN IT!
and as deeply as it pains me to say this.... i mean a searing guttural agony.....
.... the league does better as a whole when the yankees go deep in the playoffs
.... the league does better as a whole when the yankees go deep in the playoffs
The_Non said:I'm not doubting that, but another thing is the tickets are so goddamn expensive they price out broke shmucks that would like to go to a few games on a regular basis during the season.
I MISS FANS THROWING D BATTERIES AT THE OPPOSING TEAM'S RIGHT FIELDER AT YANKEE STADIUM DAMN IT!
I fondly remember a Fenway outing where WEEI gave out "K" cards for a Pedro start. My drunken ruffian friends and I in the bleachers made paper airplanes out of ours and tossed them (mine actually did a 180 in the stands and hit some poor lady in the face???sorry lady). Within moments there were thousands of giant paper airplanes creating bedlam in the bleachers.
On another lovely summer evening, a few Mets fans were sitting in front of us holding up a Mets towel. We threw whatever we could get our hands on at them and the cops kicked them out for inciting the crowd. Not us for throwing shit at them. THEM.
I love Boston.
I MISS FANS THROWING D BATTERIES AT THE OPPOSING TEAM'S RIGHT FIELDER AT YANKEE STADIUM DAMN IT!
I fondly remember a Fenway outing where WEEI gave out "K" cards for a Pedro start. My drunken ruffian friends and I in the bleachers made paper airplanes out of ours and tossed them (mine actually did a 180 in the stands and hit some poor lady in the face???sorry lady). Within moments there were thousands of giant paper airplanes creating bedlam in the bleachers.
On another lovely summer evening, a few Mets fans were sitting in front of us holding up a Mets towel. We threw whatever we could get our hands on at them and the cops kicked them out for inciting the crowd. Not us for throwing shit at them. THEM.
I love Boston.
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