Mayweather - Canelo

[StoneHands]

Havent been this psyched for awhile about a fight. The Matthysse/Garcia undercard is out of this world as well.
I see this being a wide UD for Mayweather, but Im really interested to see whether Canelo's size/strength will throw Money off. Dude is probably gonna walk into the ring around 170..
Thoughts/predictions?

 

[JectWon]

I'm amped as well. It might be one of the last PPV boxing events I care about for a long time...Friday Night Fights has been dope though.





My thoughts:





Canelo typically bulks up after the initial weigh in...sometimes putting on almost 20 pounds immediately after the official weigh-in. He typically takes on 154 pound fights and this one is at 152 due to the size difference between fighters...I think this is point to Canelo. May normally fights at 147 and below...might compliment the fact that he's aging but it also might take away that classic Mayweather speed.





I think the real deciding factor is going to be the boxing genius of Mayweather...it wins every time (exciting fight or not) and I simply don't think Alvarez has the discipline and experience needed to hang with the Champ....yet.





X-factor 1...Canelo might catch him. I don't think he'll outbox Mayweather but he could catch him. People have caught him before who aren't as good as Canelo is right now (Mayweather/Mosely round 2). If he catches Mayweather, I suspect he's an opponent with the biggest chance of being able to take real advantage of that and go for the kill.





X-factor 2 and 3...Mayweather hasn't been in a significant fight in a looooooong time...also his age.





At the end of the day, Mayweather is a boxing genius anything he sacrifices/loses in the size difference, his age, the young kid's power, etc...he will compensate for all those things with the appropriate boxing approach at the appropriate time because that is simply what he does.





Smart money: Boring fight (for people who don't enjoy watching Mayweather do his thing) where Mayweather turtles every flurry of activity from the Kid. Canelo will have some brief moments where he gets the crowd into it (but the slow-mo-after-round-replay will show that Mayweather's Philly Roll style deflected virtually all shots), eventually the Kid will get frustrated (as all mortal Mayweather opponents do) and Mayweather will make him pay but Canelo won't go down once. END RESULT: Unanimous Decision to Mayweather.






















































































































































































....butCanelocouldcatchem'...justsayin'

 

[Big_Stacks]

[ quote author=JectWon date=1378914972]I'm amped as well. It might be one of the last PPV boxing events I care about for a long time...Friday Night Fights has been dope though.





My thoughts:





Canelo typically bulks up after the initial weigh in...sometimes putting on almost 20 pounds immediately after the official weigh-in. He typically takes on 154 pound fights and this one is at 152 due to the size difference between fighters...I think this is point to Canelo. May normally fights at 147 and below...might compliment the fact that he's aging but it also might take away that classic Mayweather speed.


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I think the real deciding factor is going to be the boxing genius of Mayweather...it wins every time (exciting fight or not) and I simply don't think Alvarez has the discipline and experience needed to hang with the Champ....yet.





X-factor 1...Canelo might catch him. I don't think he'll outbox Mayweather but he could catch him. People have caught him before who aren't as good as Canelo is right now (Mayweather/Mosely round 2). If he catches Mayweather, I suspect he's an opponent with the biggest chance of being able to take real advantage of that and go for the kill.





X-factor 2 and 3...Mayweather hasn't been in a significant fight in a looooooong time...also his age.





At the end of the day, Mayweather is a boxing genius anything he sacrifices/loses in the size difference, his age, the young kid's power, etc...he will compensate for all those things with the appropriate boxing approach at the appropriate time because that is simply what he does.





Smart money: Boring fight (for people who don't enjoy watching Mayweather do his thing) where Mayweather turtles every flurry of activity from the Kid. Canelo will have some brief moments where he gets the crowd into it (but the slow-mo-after-round-replay will show that Mayweather's Philly Roll style deflected virtually all shots), eventually the Kid will get frustrated (as all mortal Mayweather opponents do) and Mayweather will make him pay but Canelo won't go down once. END RESULT: Unanimous Decision to Mayweather.


....butCanelocouldcatchem'...justsayin'

Great analysis, JectbWon!!!





Peace,





Big Stacks from Kakalak

 

[Possum Slim]

Looking forward to both fights a lot. Matthysse's the favourite on the undercard for me but could definitely go either way.





Hoping Alvarez beats Mayweather, who has to be the favourite to win via UD, but if Canelo can work the body with his strong, clever attacks he is in with a great shot. Will be a real challenge for Mayweather and a great fight for the fans.

 

[JectWon]

[ quote author=JectWon date=1378914972]I'm amped as well. It might be one of the last PPV boxing events I care about for a long time...Friday Night Fights has been dope though.





My thoughts:





Canelo typically bulks up after the initial weigh in...sometimes putting on almost 20 pounds immediately after the official weigh-in. He typically takes on 154 pound fights and this one is at 152 due to the size difference between fighters...I think this is point to Canelo. May normally fights at 147 and below...might compliment the fact that he's aging but it also might take away that classic Mayweather speed.


::


I think the real deciding factor is going to be the boxing genius of Mayweather...it wins every time (exciting fight or not) and I simply don't think Alvarez has the discipline and experience needed to hang with the Champ....yet.





X-factor 1...Canelo might catch him. I don't think he'll outbox Mayweather but he could catch him. People have caught him before who aren't as good as Canelo is right now (Mayweather/Mosely round 2). If he catches Mayweather, I suspect he's an opponent with the biggest chance of being able to take real advantage of that and go for the kill.





X-factor 2 and 3...Mayweather hasn't been in a significant fight in a looooooong time...also his age.





At the end of the day, Mayweather is a boxing genius anything he sacrifices/loses in the size difference, his age, the young kid's power, etc...he will compensate for all those things with the appropriate boxing approach at the appropriate time because that is simply what he does.





Smart money: Boring fight (for people who don't enjoy watching Mayweather do his thing) where Mayweather turtles every flurry of activity from the Kid. Canelo will have some brief moments where he gets the crowd into it (but the slow-mo-after-round-replay will show that Mayweather's Philly Roll style deflected virtually all shots), eventually the Kid will get frustrated (as all mortal Mayweather opponents do) and Mayweather will make him pay but Canelo won't go down once. END RESULT: Unanimous Decision to Mayweather.


....butCanelocouldcatchem'...justsayin'

Great analysis, JectbWon!!!





Peace,





Big Stacks from Kakalak




Thanks, man!





Also...to anyone who plans on watching this...do NOT sleep on the Matthysse vs Garcia undercard. I have a buddy who thinks that fight might steal the show...he's got a knack for calling em' right.

 

[Grandfather]

Mathhysse vs Garcia will be a bad ass fight, you could bet money on that.





I'm of mexican descent so I've been cheering Canelo for a while now. I went to see his fight with Austin Trout in San Antonio too.


The biggest things I think of are this:





1. Canelo's Youth.


2. Floyd's Age.


3. Shortest time between fights that Floyd has had in YEARS.


4. Canelo's weight.








If Canelo can lean on Floyd and batter his arms with his heavy punches, he could successfully nullify Floyds counter punching. He would still have to deal with his defense in order to get a KO. I can see Canelo winning a split decision because he nullify's Floyd counters and brings flurries that look good (but probably wont hit much).





The likely scenario is a classic Floyd unanimous decision.









































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or 170 lb Canelo can catch him.

 

[Possum Slim]

Angel Garcia getting excited again.





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[JectWon]

Grandfather said:


3. Shortest time between fights that Floyd has had in YEARS.







Fantastic point that I forgot about. Compound that with his age and the fact that this is a very significant opponent and I feel like this is one of the riskiest fights that Mayweather might ever have taken on since achieving his pound for pound Champ status.





As a matter of fact, I'm trying to think of a more significant/riskier fight in Matweather's later career and I cannot think of one. Anyone have any thoughts on that?





Maybe Arturo Gatti (RIP) in 05 or Zab in 06? I think Zab was already kind of on the downslope, considering he was already coming off a loss. And I know that the Gatti fight did big numbers but I can't remember what kind of form Gatti was in at the time.





The more I think about it, the more I think this might be the riskiest fight of Mayweather's career...it's still a significant advantage to Mayweather.





I'm probably making this fight a bigger deal than it might be because I'm excited to watch it.





EDIT: there are probably good arguments that might suggest the Mayweather Cotto fight to be a riskier one for the Champ.

 

[Jimster]

Mayweather's genius is letting his opponents beat themselves. From time to time, he gives them a little subliminal nudge in this direction, a sprinkle of trash-talk perhaps, to stop them adopting the same tactic, but it's as much a test of patience as anything else.





Which is not to say he doesn't have great boxing ability, which he does, he is probably the most efficient fighter I've ever seen, at any weight. Classic prizefighter. Which is why, IIRC, he's the highest-paid sportsman in the world?

 

[Possum Slim]

$45.1m for this fight I think.

 

[JectWon]

SP 1200 said:$45.1m for this fight I think.




Yup...guranteed; regardless of outcome. And that is BEFORE PPV numbers come in.

 

[StoneHands]

JectWon said:


X-factor 2 and 3...Mayweather hasn't been in a significant fight in a looooooong time...also his age.










You wouldnt count Cotto as significant?

 

[The_Non]

I'm not trying to mess with this thread but


Is anyone thru with boxing or is it just me? When the heavyweight division became a joke and they don't show any fights on (free) TV, I sorta walked away. I don't wanna see 2 tiny guys boxing. If I did, I'd go clubbing more and stand outside and watch.


Oh, and fights being fixed.


Sorry, no threadhijack.

 

[Possum Slim]

2013's been a good year for the sport.

 

[Jimster]

The_Non said:I'm not trying to mess with this thread but


Is anyone thru with boxing or is it just me? When the heavyweight division became a joke and they don't show any fights on (free) TV, I sorta walked away. I don't wanna see 2 tiny guys boxing. If I did, I'd go clubbing more and stand outside and watch.


Oh, and fights being fixed.


Sorry, no threadhijack.




I think it's always been about as straight as a 3?? pound note, but when two guys go at it, Hearns/Hagler-style, it's magic. You just have to accept the theatrics and sideshow spiel of the Don Kings and dem. The heavyweight scene is a joke though. I lost interest when David Haye got beat.

 

[JectWon]

StoneHands said:JectWon said:


X-factor 2 and 3...Mayweather hasn't been in a significant fight in a looooooong time...also his age.










You wouldnt count Cotto as significant?




It's definitely significant. But, Cotto seemed to be in a weird place at that point in his career. He caught a fraudulent loss from Margarito (we all know now that Margarito had loaded his wraps) and his loss from his outright battle with Paqcuiao. Then, after his Mayweather loss, he took an L from Austin Trout. He came back and beat the breaks off of Margarito in the rematch before the Mayweather fight but he seemed a bit changed after that Margarito 1 fight...





The kinda fight that leaves you like this changes a dude, imo...

I think during the time that Mayweather fought Cotto, it wasn't as risky/significant as the Alvarez fight (but that's just my opinion). Alvarez is on the come up and probably as healthy and physically able as he'll ever be. I just feel like it's one of the most biggest fights of Floyd's career....it's definitely not a fight that people can point at and accuse Mayweather of cherry picking his opponents.

 

[Possum Slim]

It's an exciting fight no doubt about it. Mayweather could come unstuck and there'd be a new young boxing hero.

 

[Big_Stacks]

Hey,





It was Money May all day...just another sparring session. Garcia vs.Matthyse was the fight of the night. Garcia is a bad boy!!! It was a great card except for that Is Ishe Smith - Carlos Molina stinker.





Peace,





Big Stacks from Kakalak

 

[Gary]

So... Bieber fever anyone?

 

[JectWon]

Gary said:So... Bieber fever anyone?




Haha, that was a hilarious entrance.