Most overrated rap record ever?
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AUL'S BOUTIQUE
Jonny_Paycheck said:rap records that are not overrated:
Innercity Griots
Boxcar Sessions
Amen.
Although, you now have me scrambling to come up with valid reasons why I still rate Bizarre Ride so high, despite hardly listening to it the past 15 years.
Innercity Griots
Boxcar Sessions
Amen.
Although, you now have me scrambling to come up with valid reasons why I still rate Bizarre Ride so high, despite hardly listening to it the past 15 years.
honest question.
I've listened to it umpteen million times. It's cool. I just don't get the fucking HEFT of it that makes people rate it so highly.
I've listened to it umpteen million times. It's cool. I just don't get the fucking HEFT of it that makes people rate it so highly.
PatrickCrazy said:does anyone still rate 93 til?
Yeah I rate that shit.
I fell out of love with it for a number of years, came back to it, and loved it so much it made me love their subsequent two records more.
Yeah I rate that shit.
I fell out of love with it for a number of years, came back to it, and loved it so much it made me love their subsequent two records more.
"They" like that it's cutesy rap and thus a major step up from its obviously inferior step-cousin Stone Cold Rhymin'. Plus there's Passin' Me By on there.
PatrickCrazy said:does anyone still rate 93 til?
Yeah, I've been listening to that a bit the past few months. It's still great.
Yeah, I've been listening to that a bit the past few months. It's still great.
drbrownscelray said:Everything the Roots ever put out post-"Do You Want More" was shit
I dunno...Illadelph/Halflife is the only one that has anything still worth listening to, I think. Not that I'm doing much of that. If you just lump the entire Roots discography into one record, it'd be in serious contention for the Most Overrated crown.
I dunno...Illadelph/Halflife is the only one that has anything still worth listening to, I think. Not that I'm doing much of that. If you just lump the entire Roots discography into one record, it'd be in serious contention for the Most Overrated crown.
Jonny_Paycheck said:no seriously, explain to me how BIZARRE RIDE is a masterpiece.
I don't think Paul's Boutique is overrated.
I ride for the production and the verses on Bizarreride. I ride kinda hard. I hold the songs up against anything from that era. hatt me.
And my point re: Paul's Boutique is not that it's overrated. It's that it's "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" applies to it. And yet it's still dope.
what I was saying was that "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" (drbrownscellray's formulation) does not really describe what we're trying to get at here, because it can (and does) capture albums that are actually great, like Paul's Boutique.
I don't think Paul's Boutique is overrated.
I ride for the production and the verses on Bizarreride. I ride kinda hard. I hold the songs up against anything from that era. hatt me.
And my point re: Paul's Boutique is not that it's overrated. It's that it's "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" applies to it. And yet it's still dope.
what I was saying was that "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" (drbrownscellray's formulation) does not really describe what we're trying to get at here, because it can (and does) capture albums that are actually great, like Paul's Boutique.
Jonny_Paycheck said:rap records that are not overrated:
Innercity Griots
Boxcar Sessions
different thread.
Innercity Griots
Boxcar Sessions
different thread.
Jonny_Paycheck said:
I've listened to it umpteen million times. It's cool. I just don't get the fucking HEFT of it that makes people rate it so highly.
I think the high ratings are because it has good beats, it's "accessible" (i.e. non-threatening, non-militant, non-rappity-rap, non-whatever else scares people away from rap), and the overall vibe is silly and kinda fun.
I've listened to it umpteen million times. It's cool. I just don't get the fucking HEFT of it that makes people rate it so highly.
I think the high ratings are because it has good beats, it's "accessible" (i.e. non-threatening, non-militant, non-rappity-rap, non-whatever else scares people away from rap), and the overall vibe is silly and kinda fun.
rootlesscosmo said:Jonny_Paycheck said:no seriously, explain to me how BIZARRE RIDE is a masterpiece.
I don't think Paul's Boutique is overrated.
I ride for the production and the verses on Bizarreride. I ride kinda hard. I hold the songs up against anything from that era. hatt me.
And my point re: Paul's Boutique is not that it's overrated. It's that it's "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" applies to it. And yet it's still dope.
what I was saying was that "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" does not capture what we're trying to get at here, because it can (and does) capture albums that are actually great.
right but I think what the homie was saying is that it doesn't live up to the hype, where as Paul's Boutique does.
I'll revisit on your recommendation and will flame u bro if I don't agree (re Bizarre Ride)
I don't think Paul's Boutique is overrated.
I ride for the production and the verses on Bizarreride. I ride kinda hard. I hold the songs up against anything from that era. hatt me.
And my point re: Paul's Boutique is not that it's overrated. It's that it's "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" applies to it. And yet it's still dope.
what I was saying was that "Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" does not capture what we're trying to get at here, because it can (and does) capture albums that are actually great.
right but I think what the homie was saying is that it doesn't live up to the hype, where as Paul's Boutique does.
I'll revisit on your recommendation and will flame u bro if I don't agree (re Bizarre Ride)
I think Illmatic is really great but its rating has reached mythical levels over time and it hurts its reputation.
I stil ride for Illmatic but yeah, people gotta chill out on it.
I stil ride for Illmatic but yeah, people gotta chill out on it.
"Album That Dudes With Only A Passing Attachment To Rap Claim Is A Masterpiece" (drbrownscellray's formulation) does not really describe what we're trying to get at here, because it can (and does) capture albums that are actually great, like Paul's Boutique.
alls I'm saying.
alls I'm saying.
Oh and we have not even discussed the peculiar sub-species of college dudes who think "Stakes Is High" is a masterpiece. That shit makes me want to tear my ears off. It should be called "Brilliant Poets Choose Complaining Over Poetry" and it should be illegal to like it more than the first 3 albums.
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