Record Labels that Draw You In But Always Dissapoint

LaserWolf said:I never think of ECM as a label that I am taking chances on.


Almost all the records have the ECM free/chamber/open sound.


Almost all have the same revolving group of players.


Almost all are beautifully recorded.


Almost all will put you to sleep.




you need the Mike Naura, or the 2 Julian Priester's, or the Wolfgang Dauner. I'm sure there's some others I'm not thinking of but you're right: the music often matches the cover art.
 
Horseleech said:Humanacat said:Definitely agree with Raer Earth, so much horn rock crap.




The Pretty Things


XIT


Power Of Zeus


And the band Rare Earth has some jams.




Some of the bad ones are really bad. I have mixed feelings on some of the band rare earth's releases.





The cats


Sunday funnies


Brass monkey


The impact of brass


Seem to remember r. Dean Taylor being pretty bad


Don't know xit, rustix, lost nation, I will have to check those.
 
LaserWolf said:vinylstalker said:The one for me is definitely Light/Word.


Where I came up digging, half the shit was xian stuff,


and I took SO many chances on SO much crap.


There are a few 1-2 track bangers, but the banger-crap ratio is mad high.




Only half is xian?





First Gear.





We should do a What's Good On Light/Word/Myrrh sometime.


Unlike some other labels mentioned, like ECM or Buddah, you gotta listen to these because there is no telling what might be good there.




Ha, no, I meant half the total stock of records in my shitty town.


Anyway, yes, lets do a light/word/myrrh thread soon, it is an interesting


hodgepodge of missed opportunities and possibility.





Oh and cosine on Spring. So much crapolla.


Oh





Oh and cosine on Spring. Such crap.
 
Not sure why there's such a consensus on Buddah. I have a ton of good shit on that label, in all genres. There are some really obscure soul releases on Buddah that are awesome. And honestly, tho I find some crap on there, certainly not a higher ratio than any other big label from the time.
 
SoulOnIce said:Not sure why there's such a consensus on Buddah. I have a ton of good shit on that label, in all genres. There are some really obscure soul releases on Buddah that are awesome. And honestly, tho I find some crap on there, certainly not a higher ratio than any other big label from the time.




:cosine: I have to say that I have pulled disappointing selections from:





-Groove Merchant (though I like the O'donel Levy joints)


-Cobblestone (hit and miss, but more miss than hit)


-cosine on Spring (though I love that Act I LP I have)


-Stang


-All Platinum


-Vanguard





Peace,





Big Stacks from Kakalak
 
Big_Stacks said:


-cosine on Spring (though I like love that Act I LP I have)





Big Stacks from Kakalak




I think that album alone made me think Spring might have some 'sleeper' heat else where (outside of a the Millie joints)...





Same goes for Capricorn records... I find one dope 45 produced by Willie Hutch and my mind tells me there could be more! Still searching...
 
crabmongerfunk said:


-karma sutra label







:cosine:





And yet I kept on buying them. It was like the gambler's fallacy applied to digging. "This label is due for a good record...."
 
Big_Stacks said:


-Cobblestone (hit and miss, but more miss than hit)




lots of great records on cobblestone. in fact, i say that almost all of them are worth getting:





-catalyst st


-norman conners joints


-neal creque joints


-erik kloss - doors


-freddie mccoy


-jimmy heath gap sealer


-steve kuhn live in ny


-the vistors


-pat martino the visit


-hermeto pascoal
 
SoulOnIce said:Not sure why there's such a consensus on Buddah. I have a ton of good shit on that label, in all genres. There are some really obscure soul releases on Buddah that are awesome. And honestly, tho I find some crap on there, certainly not a higher ratio than any other big label from the time.




:word: x 1000
 
You guys are tripping on some labels ... or need to dig deeper ... so much good shit on Spring: Joneses, Act 1, Winifield Parker, Street People, Flower Shoppe, Little Eva, Millie Jackson, Don Williams, Lou Jackson ...
 
cookbook said:The_Non said:Horseleech said:Humanacat said:Definitely agree with Raer Earth, so much horn rock crap.




The Pretty Things


XIT


Power Of Zeus


And the band Rare Earth has some jams.

Toe Fat


Lost Nation


there's more




Rustix




Dennis Stoner
 
cookbook said:The_Non said:Horseleech said:Humanacat said:Definitely agree with Raer Earth, so much horn rock crap.




The Pretty Things


XIT


Power Of Zeus


And the band Rare Earth has some jams.

Toe Fat


Lost Nation


there's more




Rustix




Dennis Stoner


The Crystal Mansion
 
Campag_Record said:cookbook said:The_Non said:Horseleech said:Humanacat said:Definitely agree with Raer Earth, so much horn rock crap.




The Pretty Things


XIT


Power Of Zeus


And the band Rare Earth has some jams.

Toe Fat


Lost Nation


there's more




Rustix




Dennis Stoner


The Crystal Mansion




Are any of these seriously good albums? I've heard more than half and the only one I can actually say I'd keep in my collection is the SF Sorrow LP.





I just pulled the Power of Zeus and put it in my "to sell" pile.





Tell me why any of these albums mentioned are worthwhile, I dare you
 
Campag_Record said:cookbook said:The_Non said:Horseleech said:Humanacat said:Definitely agree with Raer Earth, so much horn rock crap.




The Pretty Things


XIT


Power Of Zeus


And the band Rare Earth has some jams.

Toe Fat


Lost Nation


there's more




Rustix




Dennis Stoner


The Crystal Mansion




Are any of these seriously good albums? I've heard more than half and the only one I can actually say I'd keep in my collection is the SF Sorrow LP.





I just pulled the Power of Zeus and put it in my "to sell" pile.





Tell me why any of these albums mentioned are worthwhile, I dare you




I'd have to say neither are solid LP's but I do like 3 or 4 tracks on the Stoner and 1 or 2 on the Mansion. Lost Nation is a solid listen for me. SF Sorrow is by far the best LP of course.
 
cosine on:


-inner city


-vanguard (the james moody and elvin jones lps are the best i have heard and they are mediocre at best)


-ecm (with the exception of about 5 titles already mentioned... i think that dauner "output" is the grail, never seen that one).





i actually think pablo has some decent stuff despite the dreary cover art and utter commonness: al gaffa, the dizzy gillespie ones, freddie hubbard live at north sea, oscar peterson silent partner ost, and dom um roma spring to mind..





SOI: goign to start checking for those spring titles you mentioned. thanks for dropping some knowledge on that.
 
Guzzo said:the only one I can actually say I'd keep in my collection is the SF Sorrow LP.




Don't sleep on Parachute, I actually like it more than SF Sorrow.
 
crabmongerfunk said:vanguard (the james moody and elvin jones lps are the best i have heard and they are mediocre at best).




common Crab





 
SoulOnIce said:You guys are tripping on some labels ... or need to dig deeper ... so much good shit on Spring: Joneses, Act 1, Winifield Parker, Street People, Flower Shoppe, Little Eva, Millie Jackson, Don Williams, Lou Jackson ...




Is that the same Street People that is usually found on the Vigor label?





I agree, Spring is not a complete dud, there is heat to be found. Cosign on Winfield Parker! The amount is subjective I suppose.