Soul Strut 100: # 25 - Nas - Illmatic
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james said:"I had already ate some lettuce and tomato on Monday, drank some ketchup on Tuesday, had a ground beef patty on Wednesday, and a spoonful of mustard on Thursday, so when my man showed up with a hamburger on Friday, I was like, 'Whatever.' Dudes are all geeked over some mayo and a bun? GTFOOHWTBS"
PUTS MAYO ON A BURGER
PUTS MAYO ON A BURGER
rootlesscosmo said:
The idea that because some of the joints had already circulated makes the tape less dope has mystified me ever since it was first expressed on here like 7 yrs ago and continues to mystify me.
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The idea that because some of the joints had already circulated makes the tape less dope has mystified me ever since it was first expressed on here like 7 yrs ago and continues to mystify me.
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rootlesscosmo said:rootlesscosmo said:
The idea that because some of the joints had already circulated makes the tape less dope has mystified me ever since it was first expressed on here like 7 yrs ago and continues to mystify me.
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Ill go back in.
Rebel Without a Pause was a B-side to Your Gonna Get Yours from the first album.
Radio and the skreets was burnin' that single after the album and its singles had faded.
Then when Nations came out it was tacked on. For the folks that didnt get the 12"...here u go....but within that suite it was to me a carry over from a previous SET. And didnt have the same "contextual" importance as the lead off singles of that suite....Bring The Noise & Dont Believe The Hype. Rebel wasnt touted as the debut single for Nation, but you could hear the stylistic evolution.
Nations had plenty of other tracks to make the album when it dropped, after the opening singles, to FEEL fresh & new as an entire Suite.
Halftime was worn out by the time I heard the street releases of the Illmatic.
After hearing a couple of joints from Halftime all over the place, by the time I heard the full suite ( being only 10 tracks), the suite didnt feel fresh and new, but just a finally realized date that I had already met the parents and finger-poppped in the back seat already.
The idea that because some of the joints had already circulated makes the tape less dope has mystified me ever since it was first expressed on here like 7 yrs ago and continues to mystify me.
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Ill go back in.
Rebel Without a Pause was a B-side to Your Gonna Get Yours from the first album.
Radio and the skreets was burnin' that single after the album and its singles had faded.
Then when Nations came out it was tacked on. For the folks that didnt get the 12"...here u go....but within that suite it was to me a carry over from a previous SET. And didnt have the same "contextual" importance as the lead off singles of that suite....Bring The Noise & Dont Believe The Hype. Rebel wasnt touted as the debut single for Nation, but you could hear the stylistic evolution.
Nations had plenty of other tracks to make the album when it dropped, after the opening singles, to FEEL fresh & new as an entire Suite.
Halftime was worn out by the time I heard the street releases of the Illmatic.
After hearing a couple of joints from Halftime all over the place, by the time I heard the full suite ( being only 10 tracks), the suite didnt feel fresh and new, but just a finally realized date that I had already met the parents and finger-poppped in the back seat already.
I get what Batmon is saying. It's his experience and it makes sense to me. The impact wasn't the same. People seem to just be taking issue with the idea that he's maybe discounting it's overall greatness, but I don't think that's the case. He's just saying it doesn't have that same greatness for him because it plays more like a comp of songs he'd heard over time and had already run to death more than it does an overall experience.
If anything, it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
If anything, it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
Controller_7 said:I get what Batmon is saying. It's his experience and it makes sense to me. The impact wasn't the same. People seem to just be taking issue with the idea that he's maybe discounting it's overall greatness, but I don't think that's the case. He's just saying it doesn't have that same greatness for him because it plays more like a comp of songs he'd heard over time and had already run to death more than it does an overall experience.
If anything, it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
Thank you 7.
If anything, it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
Thank you 7.
It's always hard to disassociate a record from your personal experience of it. I get that.
But the Soulstrut Top 100 is a list of great albums, many of which none of us had heard till long after they had been released.
Illmatic seems like a tape that (more so than almost any other) fools like to nitpick because it was (a) short and because (b) some tracks came out too long before the full album. I guess I just don't see how it takes away from the overall merits of the album itself (in contrast to your personal experience of it, which was clearly diminished on account of those factors).
Controller_7 said:
it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
But the Soulstrut Top 100 is a list of great albums, many of which none of us had heard till long after they had been released.
Illmatic seems like a tape that (more so than almost any other) fools like to nitpick because it was (a) short and because (b) some tracks came out too long before the full album. I guess I just don't see how it takes away from the overall merits of the album itself (in contrast to your personal experience of it, which was clearly diminished on account of those factors).
Controller_7 said:
it's just a "sucks for him" kind of thing considering most people enjoy this album as a whole.
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