Soul Strut 100: # 29 - Ray Barretto - Acid

[discos_alma]

Jonny_Paycheck said:I blame O-Dub




I was just gonna say. +1 for Reynaldo.





I've seen the results for the SS 100 votes and only like 2 people voted for Acid (see above).

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

MusicaDelAlma said:





I've seen the results for the SS 100 votes and only like 2 people voted for Acid










shoulda been number 1 to him!

 

[discos_alma]

ppadilha said:Jonny_Paycheck said:I am not a big fan of the boogaloo sound, shit is wilde cheesy to me. But considering how most of this list are kind of desert-isle, genre-defining records this choice seems pretty uninspired. "My First Groovy Latin Record" territory.





To me the imagery of the record and what it represents to your average 35 year old "digger" are way more crucial to its placement than the music




I actually quite enjoy teh boogaloo/latin soul thing, which is part of why I like Acid so much.







I'm a massive fan of like 10 boogaloo songs, but most boogaloo is pretty cringe-inducing to me. These are definitely filed, though:























^ pitched down to -6 or 7 this shit is great.








ppadilha said:


is there any sort of Fania vs. Discos Fuentes discussion?




Why on earth would you compare? Mario "Pachanga" Rincon and Antonio Fuentes would frequently travel to NYC and visit Fania and Tico studios to learn recording techniques and hear what the hottest salsa styles were at the time. Then they put their own spin on it.





They brought Fruko's first LP Tesura to NYC and played it for some folks and basically got laughed out of town. It was too obtuse apparently. After that, Rincon and Fruko really created their own unique sound and banged out some mega-classics.





Before the 70s, Fuentes was a completely different animal and had produced an impressive catalog of musica coste??a already, decades before Fania was started.

 

[bobtheorange]

I'm with Johnny & MusicaDelAlma on this one. Considering all the crazy Latin records coming out of NYC at this time, Acid is not really that special. Sure, it has some great tracks but as a whole, it fails to compete.





Edit: Btw, Deeper Shade of Soul is lame.

 

[tabira]

bobtheorange said:I'm with Johnny & MusicaDelAlma on this one. Considering all the crazy Latin records coming out of NYC at this time, Acid is not really that special.

 

[ppadilha]

Is this supposed to be the token latin record on the list or will there be something higher up?








MusicaDelAlma saidpadilha said:


is there any sort of Fania vs. Discos Fuentes discussion?

Why on earth would you compare?




I was just wondering if people compare the two. I know salsa came out NYC and everything, but in some ways I like the classic Fruko stuff better than anything on Fania when it comes to straight up salsa bangers. Feel free to school me on this though, I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means.

 

[yuichi]

I only recently bought this record at a show, and definitely wasn't blown away by it. Matter of fact, I tried to sell it a week after......BUT I've since then given it numerous spins and it's pretty good.

 

[BallzDeep]

take the title track away and i think you're left with just a decent latin record.

 

[Reynaldo]

IT BEAT THRILLER! OH SNAP! WHAT WHAT! THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!





I wouldn't fuck to this record but it still bangs. "Love Beads" and "Together" are basically funk tracks; you can't really compare them to what was on Acid or before. Hards Hands and Together just sound like smaller, looser records. Although "Son Con Cuero" sounds like it was from the Acid sessions. "Hipocresia y Falsedad" is another favorite. They're just very different records.





Not too long ago I sold O-Dub my copy of Acid.

 

[mannybolone]

Jonny_Paycheck said:I blame O-Dub




I'll take that. I totally ride for this and think it's one of the best Latin soul albums, period. Of course, if you don't like boogaloo...





I'm not trying to get into an argument over this but as far as "cheesy" boogaloo albums go, this is one of the least cheesy out there. I'm really surprised to hear it described as that but different strokes/folks and all that.

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

Reynaldo said:"Love Beads" and "Together" are basically funk tracks; you can't really compare them to what was on Acid or before. Hards Hands and Together just sound like smaller, looser records.




This is a fair point, but Acid is still corny





I was told just today that the sessions for those records were all around the same (damn) time

 

[Electrode]

I love the timbales solo on the title track. This one also reminds me that taking acid, the real deal, is high on my bucket list.

 

[Dean R]

Jonny_Paycheck said:Reynaldo said:"Love Beads" and "Together" are basically funk tracks; you can't really compare them to what was on Acid or before. Hards Hands and Together just sound like smaller, looser records.




This is a fair point, but Acid is still corny





I was told just today that the sessions for those records were all around the same (damn) time




I don't think this is actually true - unless you mean within a year or so. There was a different vocalist on the later two albums.





This is an astounding album and I don't think it can really be described as a boogaloo album - Love Beads is far closer cheesy boogaloo.


The band is incredible - I was lucky enough to get some of the instrumentals of this - and what you get sounds like a top notch latin jazz group.





I've started playing Mercy Mercy Baby out again. Works every time.

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

Dean R said:Jonny_Paycheck said:





I was told just today that the sessions for those records were all around the same (damn) time




I don't think this is actually true - unless you mean within a year or so. There was a different vocalist on the later two albums.







I didn't say the same session, just around the same time. Whether it was within the span of a few months or whatever, I don't know.

 

[LaserWolf]

When I opened the shop in 1990 I was stocking Latin titles, new and reissues.


I soon found out there were only 4 maybe 5 people in Portland who cared, but they were passionate.





Acid and Hard Hands were 2 of the most requested titles. Dealing with Fania was near impossible.

 

[button]

I still think "Nuevo Barretto" is pretty sick. And have witnessed that boogaloo/soul stuff pack dance floors enough to deem it worthy in some sense. Not to mentin it has that whole crate digger historical aura behind it. I mean, no duh you could pull 100 crazier latin records out of your butthole in like 5 seconds, but why would you put some obscure colombian 45 or a minor NYC LP that only hardened collectors care about ahead of something like this?